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30-04-2016, 01:37 PM
 
RE: I hate to have to ask...we need help.
(30-04-2016 08:17 AM)skyking Wrote:  you need to call the local authorities on that. Get after them, nobody is going to look kindly to them taking your money and not delivering.

No money had changed hands yet. We weren't going to pay until they were done and the cleanup complete.

I kept my calm when I talked to the contractor but also let him know that I am losing confidence in his ability to get the right people in here to get the job done right. I realize it's not his fault the crew bailed...the other crew he had has nearly finished the house across the street and they started at 7 this morning. He is trying to get them to come do our house ASAP.

The crew that came here gave two excuses...one was that the roof is too steep...the pitch of the roof is clearly spelled out in the paperwork and was agreed to by the roofers. The other excuse was it's the weekend and they wanted to go home to their families. Then they shouldn't have agreed to do the work.

I told the contractor that I DO NOT want that crew back on my property and I also told him he better be sure that whoever he gets to do the ceilings and walls in the house realize, and are prepared for, the fact that the ceiling peaks at 21 feet. I also told him this is two strikes against him.

I have kept my temper in check...for years, I might add...but there is a screaming hissy fit brewing that Mr. Contractor does not want to be on the receiving end of. Censored

In other news...got my new car. That's pretty much what prevented a homicide here today. Dodgy
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30-04-2016, 02:29 PM
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That's bullshit. I roofed for years as a younger man and there wasn't a roof that I wouldn't work on. There were definitely some that scared the shit out of me and I would've preferred to not be on, I had a number of close calls and more than a few of the grey hairs on my head are due to them, but by definition my trade required me to get on that fucking roof and do my job. That's what roofers do...roofs. Steep pitch my ass. Dodgy

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30-04-2016, 02:59 PM (This post was last modified: 30-04-2016 03:07 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(30-04-2016 02:29 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  That's bullshit. I roofed for years as a younger man and there wasn't a roof that I wouldn't work on. There were definitely some that scared the shit out of me and I would've preferred to not be on, I had a number of close calls and more than a few of the grey hairs on my head are due to them, but by definition my trade required me to get on that fucking roof and do my job. That's what roofers do...roofs. Steep pitch my ass. Dodgy

I have an old friend who is a roofing business owner. My read is they didn't bring the proper safety measures for Angie's pitch. Of course my friend would've been pissed at his foreman. "Why did you not at least look at the picture of the roof to see the pitch and take the proper equipment?" I was gonna add "You're fired!" But my friend didn't. "Do it again. And do it right. Comprendre mi amigo?" My friend's employees are, not surprisingly, quite loyal to him.

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30-04-2016, 03:21 PM
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(30-04-2016 02:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I have an old friend who is a roofing business owner. My read is they didn't bring the proper safety measures for Angie's pitch. Of course my friend would've been pissed at his foreman. "Why did you not at least look at the picture of the roof to see the pitch and take the proper equipment?" I was gonna add "You're fired!" But my friend didn't. "Do it again. And do it right. Comprendre mi amigo?" My friend's employees are, not surprisingly, quite loyal to him.

Well I might add that the roofing "company" that i worked for was an old farmer in a small Kansas community. I didn't know that OSHA even existed back then and widowmaker roofs were all the rage back in the days they were making the houses we typically worked on.

I remember a "safety tactic" being that you'd tack in a nail around the area you need to work and slid down and catch your hammer on it so you could hang on with one hand and use your other hand and feet to place shingles. Godamn I was in good shape back then...

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30-04-2016, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 30-04-2016 04:57 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(30-04-2016 03:21 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(30-04-2016 02:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I have an old friend who is a roofing business owner. My read is they didn't bring the proper safety measures for Angie's pitch. Of course my friend would've been pissed at his foreman. "Why did you not at least look at the picture of the roof to see the pitch and take the proper equipment?" I was gonna add "You're fired!" But my friend didn't. "Do it again. And do it right. Comprendre mi amigo?" My friend's employees are, not surprisingly, quite loyal to him.

Well I might add that the roofing "company" that i worked for was an old farmer in a small Kansas community. I didn't know that OSHA even existed back then and widowmaker roofs were all the rage back in the days they were making the houses we typically worked on.

I remember a "safety tactic" being that you'd tack in a nail around the area you need to work and slid down and catch your hammer on it so you could hang on with one hand and use your other hand and feet to place shingles. Godamn I was in good shape back then...

I've seen your ilk before. You frighten me. A Native American cousin of mine whose father and grandfather worked on fucking very high fucking steel on bridges and buildings said they would not rope in. It distracted them. I can see that. Crazy motherfucker cliff dwellers.




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30-04-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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I tend to think it was more like "It's Saturday...and it's beer thirty, I ain't putting up no roof today."

The paperwork the crew signed off on clearly stated the pitch. Dodgy

Now the plan is a crew will be here Monday or Tuesday...James (the contractor) better hope that's what happens or he is going to have to deal with the wrath of me.
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30-04-2016, 03:52 PM
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I've cleated steep roofs many times before. I made some metal straps and attached them to the 2x4 cleats, so I could set the screws in behind a tab of roofing. Rope back down and get the cleats, have two sets. Up you go.
On a really steep roof, that screw hole will not matter. If you've been in some old steep shake roof houses and barns, you can read with the light coming through the cracks. The rain is moving WAY too fast to leak Big Grin
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30-04-2016, 05:14 PM
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(30-04-2016 03:31 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  A Native American cousin of mine whose father and grandfather worked on fucking very high fucking steel on bridges and buildings said they would not rope in. It distracted them. I can see that. Crazy motherfucker cliff dwellers.

No way, I'm scared of heights. That's fucking crazy.

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03-05-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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And the roof comes down...

[Image: Off%20comes%20the%20roof_zpsgcygbw3z.jpg]

[Image: Roof%20in%20the%20yard_zpsveatwyzz.jpg]

Here is the start of the rebuilding on The House That TTA Rebuilt.
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03-05-2016, 07:30 AM
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right on NEW SHEETING!
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