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11-09-2013, 05:10 AM
Anniversary of 9-11
The narrative (that has no backing with evidence) is that alqaeda hates the west and then the proceeding years the narrative remained that the US and Alqaeda were at war against each other (again, no evidence of such a war exists).

The US military since 9-11-2001 has managed to create a drone war that according to any estimates has killed far more civilians and very few actual alqaeda members, let alone even fewer high ranking alqaeda members. (again, no evidence of the so called alqaeda vs west war).

The US since 9-11 has also invaded Iraq killing millions of people (here come the sheep to deny that number). The US had a tough fight against the Iraqi people that resisted an invasion of the US, then as it turns out, the US was supporting alqaeda in Iraq and negotiating with them to split up the insurgency. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8359553/ns/wor...jBKNTAXWrY (Still no evidence of an Alqaeda vs West narrative).

The US has also teamed up with alqaeda in afghanistan to do the same, to break up resistance to american occupation. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/...n-war?lite (Still no evidence of a supposed Alqaeda vs West narrative)

What about before 9-11? Was alqaeda and the US opposed to each other or hating each other before 9-11? Nope. They were prison buddies with soap glued to the shower floor during the battle of jihadists-alqaeda-rebels during the war against the Soviets. That was in the late 70's early 80's so what about the late 80's early 90's? was the US/west and alqaeda opposed or fighting one another then?

Nope, during the late 80's early 90's arab terrorists alqaeda were instrumental in funding and sending fighters to Yugoslavia to help the west break up the last remaining independent socialist country. Alqaeda fighters had a division known as the KLA in former Yugoslavia. (again, no evidence of a supposed alqaeda vs west narrative).

Then of course self admitted alqaeda leaders have overthrown Gaddafi while the west gave the food soldiers air support (no fly zone wink wink). Then of course the US is funding alqaeda in Syria in failing attempts to overthrow Assad. YET STILL....NO EVIDENCE THAT ALQAEDA AND THE WEST ARE HATING,OPPOSED OR AT WAR OR ARE TRYING TO KILL ONE ANOTHER.
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11-09-2013, 09:45 AM
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Looks like it's that time again, my friends.




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11-09-2013, 10:07 AM
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Just never mind the evidence that was found on the computers in the caves in Afghanistan. That was not important. No. Not at all. No evidence at all.

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11-09-2013, 10:38 AM
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(11-09-2013 10:07 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Just never mind the evidence that was found on the computers in the caves in Afghanistan. That was not important. No. Not at all. No evidence at all.

Well as I&I proved there is no such thing as facts or evidence. Hobo

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11-09-2013, 10:55 AM
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(11-09-2013 10:07 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Just never mind the evidence that was found on the computers in the caves in Afghanistan. That was not important. No. Not at all. No evidence at all.

So alqaeda had computers in caves........because caves are the best place to use computers, it's the new starbucks. :roll eyes: "hey jihad come to cave 3 another jihad just posted a drunk picture of you on his jihadi Facebook" Rolleyes
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11-09-2013, 10:57 AM
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1. The U.S. stopped funding alqaeda after the defeat of the soviet union in afghanistan.

2. The U.S. is at war against alqaeda.

Provide evidence for either or both of these claims please.

2 should be very easy if it was true.
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11-09-2013, 11:25 AM
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The only evidence I (or you for that matter I and I) can provide is....

http://www.somerandomlink.com

The information inside is what will count, the validity of such will be questionable. Wether you decide to believe that information or not will depend on your personal belief system and how deeply ingrained it is.

If somebody could provide solid enough evidence to show that the things you mention are not a conspiracy I and I... you would still choose to discount/disbelieve it and I compare that to religious people when discussing god. I used to be the same I and I, I spent all my time on conspiracy forums talking to people who would agree with everything I said, I would agree with a lot of what they said.

Then I came here and things changed, I had decent arguments put forward which at first I fought, then after inner personal introspection (which in my opinion is more important than the information I was looking at) I evolved.

Your basing your whole entire world view on a piece of plastic that shows different images and words (a computer). You may notice coincidences (like I think I do) but that is it.

You provide US with evidence for once that isn't a loosely connected set of news reports, blogs and youtube videos.... caus that is what we all use to shape our view of the world. The difference is you are sure you know everything, like theists are sure an imaginary guy with a beard controls everything from up in the sky.

I honestly WISH that somehow I could show you how biased you are and how this is holding you back from looking at ALL the evidence. Not just the shit that fits your belief system/confirmation bias.

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11-09-2013, 11:27 AM
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Bring this up on another day asshole.

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11-09-2013, 11:36 AM
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(11-09-2013 11:25 AM)bemore Wrote:  The only evidence I (or you for that matter I and I) can provide is....

http://www.somerandomlink.com

The information inside is what will count, the validity of such will be questionable. Wether you decide to believe that information or not will depend on your personal belief system and how deeply ingrained it is.

If somebody could provide solid enough evidence to show that the things you mention are not a conspiracy I and I... you would still choose to discount/disbelieve it and I compare that to religious people when discussing god. I used to be the same I and I, I spent all my time on conspiracy forums talking to people who would agree with everything I said, I would agree with a lot of what they said.

Then I came here and things changed, I had decent arguments put forward which at first I fought, then after inner personal introspection (which in my opinion is more important than the information I was looking at) I evolved.

Your basing your whole entire world view on a piece of plastic that shows different images and words (a computer). You may notice coincidences (like I think I do) but that is it.

You provide US with evidence for once that isn't a loosely connected set of news reports, blogs and youtube videos.... caus that is what we all use to shape our view of the world. The difference is you are sure you know everything, like theists are sure an imaginary guy with a beard controls everything from up in the sky.

I honestly WISH that somehow I could show you how biased you are and how this is holding you back from looking at ALL the evidence. Not just the shit that fits your belief system/confirmation bias.

The US doesn't deny funding alqaeda/jihadists during afghan-soviet war. I am simply asking WHEN DID THE US STOP FUNDING THEM? Any guesses or ideas at all?
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11-09-2013, 11:40 AM
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(11-09-2013 10:57 AM)I and I Wrote:  1. The U.S. stopped funding alqaeda after the defeat of the soviet union in afghanistan.

2. The U.S. is at war against alqaeda.

Provide evidence for either or both of these claims please.

2 should be very easy if it was true.

Should be easy based on what?

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