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26-06-2015, 09:02 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 08:43 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Atheists like Tear, and Matt Finney, along with Stevel, are among the handful of atheists who recognize this.

Atheism =/= nihilism, only in the way that atheism =/= consistent beliefs.

That's a mighty bold claim. How about you support it with facts? Consider

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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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26-06-2015, 09:03 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)tear151 Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 08:57 AM)DLJ Wrote:  It certainly is your right not to engage in the political process.

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I don't have to have derived oughts to attempt to enforce my views on others, I do that simply because I want to.

Intriguing.

How are your views derived?

Consider

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26-06-2015, 09:03 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 08:56 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 08:52 AM)tear151 Wrote:  The ought is all I'm interested in, I have no issue with descriptive ethics and behave in an ethical manner but because I like it, I don't derive oughts.

You do if you want to survive in a cohesive human community. It you need to have it explained to you why you "ought" to live in a well running community, you are beyond hope.

No I WANT to live in a well running community, It's not a case of ought.

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26-06-2015, 09:05 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:02 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  Atheism =/= nihilism, only in the way that atheism =/= consistent beliefs.

That's a mighty bold claim. How about you support it with facts? Consider

The video did a job presenting the argument. If you have any real objections to it, I would like to hear it.
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26-06-2015, 09:05 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:03 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)tear151 Wrote:  I don't have to have derived oughts to attempt to enforce my views on others, I do that simply because I want to.

Intriguing.

How are your views derived?

Consider

My own emotional whims and desires, my nihilism leads me to a position where I am free to create my own values and act upon them as I wish, however I recognise my values are personal, and someone with different values is not wrong, simply different.

I have a base enjoyment of science, therefore I support science. What more do I need, no oughts or rational systems about it.

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26-06-2015, 09:07 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  It's the only form of atheism that is an actual contender to theism.

You forgot one thing. It's YOUR OPINION.

No one here cares what a believer thinks about atheism.

Atheism does not have to "contend" with anything. LEAST of all theism.
Theism is bullshit all by itself.

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26-06-2015, 09:07 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:02 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 08:52 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Hey! Don't miss me out! I'm a nihilist too. Weeping

An is nihilist, I should clarify.

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lol, I could sworn the other day you implied that you subscribed to objective morality? But I probably read it wrong, but we could add you and Girlyman to that list as well.

Yup. I noticed that you had read it wrong (in your follow up reply to someone else) but I was wondering how long it would take you to realise.

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26-06-2015, 09:09 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:07 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  It's the only form of atheism that is an actual contender to theism.

You forgot one thing. It's YOUR OPINION.



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26-06-2015, 09:10 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:00 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 08:43 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Atheism =/= nihilism

Atheists =/= nihilists

Atheism =/= nihilism, only in the way that atheism =/= consistent beliefs.
The only atheist "belief" is that there are no gods or deities.
Atheists are consistent on that.
Beyond that, you are free to believe anything you want.

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26-06-2015, 09:10 AM
RE: Another attack on moral subjectivism
(26-06-2015 09:03 AM)tear151 Wrote:  
(26-06-2015 08:56 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  You do if you want to survive in a cohesive human community. It you need to have it explained to you why you "ought" to live in a well running community, you are beyond hope.

No I WANT to live in a well running community, It's not a case of ought.

You dumbshit. How the fuck are you going to GET to the cohesive community ?

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