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29-12-2012, 09:33 AM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
That article is fudging its numbers in a very obvious way. Firstly, it is only talking about one year, 2006. You can't extrapolate a trend from one year of data. Secondly, the rates they say increased are often not the actual change, but the number itself. Ergo, they are saying things like "Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent." When they are intentionally leaving out what the actual rates are, and all of that period in Australia is during its gun ban and up to 2002 there were restrictions on assault weapons in the US. They may discuss numbers, but they are doing so in a fatally flawed way.

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29-12-2012, 11:02 AM
Re: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
People like Feinstein were literally just waiting to take advantage of some kind of media shitstorm. Thats why she's trying semi auto rifles.
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29-12-2012, 11:21 AM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/11/2...322202900/

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29-12-2012, 12:00 PM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
From that same article you posted.

"Despite the recent decline, the number of gun homicides committed by teens and young adults in 2008 remained similar to the counts of the mid-1980s."

So it is not due to better gun control, it is in spite of it.

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29-12-2012, 12:40 PM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
(29-12-2012 12:00 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  From that same article you posted.

"Despite the recent decline, the number of gun homicides committed by teens and young adults in 2008 remained similar to the counts of the mid-1980s."

So it is not due to better gun control, it is in spite of it.
Just saying that more guns =/= more gun crime and less guns =/= less overall crime. We don't have a gun problem in the US. The sheer numbers of responsible gun owners is more than enough evidence that just having guns around isn't the problem. It seems more probable that we have a mental health problem. Especially with over/under medicated youths.

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29-12-2012, 12:48 PM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
LOL

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29-12-2012, 12:54 PM
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http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/28/gun-cr...ownership/

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29-12-2012, 12:58 PM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people
• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean

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29-12-2012, 01:33 PM
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http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/c...ulletproof

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/5...5#50208495

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29-12-2012, 01:54 PM
RE: Another example of logic vs emotion in the gun debate
(29-12-2012 12:58 PM)germanyt Wrote:  • Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean
Sierra Leone is (or was, last I checked) practically a warzone... sayin' you're doing better than that ain't saying much...
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