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03-01-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(30-12-2015 02:57 PM)xieulong Wrote:  
(30-12-2015 07:59 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Sagan is the polite Shakespeare calling all this "a flurry of activity signifying nothing". Hitchens would be considered the verbal only Malcolm X of atheists, but even he was very Jeffersonian, in that sure you had the right to make any bullshit claim you wanted, but he had the right to call it bullshit.

So why the attack on Buddhism? Because it is also part of one species, one planet and one evolution. It should not be blasphemy or ridicule free either. That religion was born from Hinduism and the Vedas. The legend of the first Buddha was also a magical story where the divine told his mother Queen Maya that she would give birth to a baby who would bring wisdom to the world, he too had a birth that avoided the birth canal. And it is a religion to call it anything less is bullshit to me. It too has moral codes and holy people and competing sects and different interpretations. While some are atheists and call it a philosophy, others hold the superstitions of "nats"(spirits) and Karma and reincarnation.

Buddhism is as much a superstition as any other religion stemming from mythology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(moth...he_Buddha)


Does Buddhism automatically make you good? Lets see what this former Muslim who grew up in a Buddhist majority has to say.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-29/bu...rt-simpson

And just like every other religion, the cop outs are used "Well they arn't true Buddhists" "Those Buddhists didn't have the right teachers".

https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/4021...f-buddhism

This is just the tip of the ice burg. Point being it is not bigoted to say ALL religions are man made artificial constructs having NOTHING to do with our common existence and our modern scientific understanding of nature, evolution, human behavior, or the universe.

I really get fucking sick of the false accusation of bigotry or being falsely accused of being "militant" for simply pointing out willful ignorance. YES I get that people like what they believe, and from a human rights standpoint I will defend it, but at the same time I will put a blunt mirror to your logic in hopes that you will consider that ALL religions are superfluous placebos at best, and unfortunately still divisive and this post is yet another example.

Again, human rights are a given, but no religion on the face of the planet deserves a taboo.


Former Buddhist here. Yah, it's a religion.

As kids, we were taught that the Buddha is more powerful than any god; be good or you'll be tortured in hell by buffalo-head and horse-face demons; for every rice of grain you waste, you have to eat 10 maggots; if you're bad you'll spend many more reincarnation cycles as mangy dogs, or maggots, or any other 'low' animals; if you're good you'll be reincarnated into a rich family, if you'll really really really really good and pious, you may become a buddha yourself with infinite power.

Also buddism differs depends on where you were born... kinda like christianity... huh... buddhists in China will have different beliefs than the ones in Vietnam, Japan, where ever... kinda like christianity...

All powerful deities, check. Commandments, yup. Childhood indoctrination, check. Hell, check. Heaven, check. Supernatural crap, check. Different denominations, you betcha. Child-molesting priests, unfortunately check, we call them 'cobra' monks.

I find that most of the buddhists in the west just cherry pick what they like... kinda like what christians do...


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03-01-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(30-12-2015 09:03 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Buddhism is a good example of how people create deities even when there isn't one.

Unenlightened deities are samsaric beings just like you and me.

Think of them more as extraterrestrials.
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03-01-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
My brother, the preacher, was telling me that if one studies Buddhism and talks to a Buddhist one is likely to find that that particular Buddhist does not believe the things he studied. And I pointed out to him, a 7th Day Adventist, that Christianity is the same way. Let us assume a Buddhist studied Christianity for 4 years and now knows all about it and asks him why he worships on Sunday.when he doesn't or why he believes in Hell, which he doesn't, or any number of other things that many Christians believe, that he doesn't. Who is the confused one, the Buddhist who studied or the 7th Day Adventist who does not believe as most Christians do?
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03-01-2016, 09:02 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(03-01-2016 12:14 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(30-12-2015 07:59 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  mother Queen Maya that she would give birth to a baby who would bring wisdom to the world, he too had a birth that avoided the birth canal.


Its called a C-section
Shouldn't it get renamed a B-section then? Or G? S?

Since that would of been earlier than a Cesar section.

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03-01-2016, 09:39 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(03-01-2016 09:02 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Since that would of been earlier than a Cesar section.

Do you mean cesarean section?
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05-01-2016, 03:50 AM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2016 04:09 AM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(30-12-2015 07:59 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  Sagan is the polite Shakespeare calling all this "a flurry of activity signifying nothing". Hitchens would be considered the verbal only Malcolm X of atheists, but even he was very Jeffersonian, in that sure you had the right to make any bullshit claim you wanted, but he had the right to call it bullshit.

So why the attack on Buddhism? Because it is also part of one species, one planet and one evolution. It should not be blasphemy or ridicule free either. That religion was born from Hinduism and the Vedas. The legend of the first Buddha was also a magical story where the divine told his mother Queen Maya that she would give birth to a baby who would bring wisdom to the world, he too had a birth that avoided the birth canal. And it is a religion to call it anything less is bullshit to me. It too has moral codes and holy people and competing sects and different interpretations. While some are atheists and call it a philosophy, others hold the superstitions of "nats"(spirits) and Karma and reincarnation.

Buddhism is as much a superstition as any other religion stemming from mythology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(moth...he_Buddha)


Does Buddhism automatically make you good? Lets see what this former Muslim who grew up in a Buddhist majority has to say.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-29/bu...rt-simpson

And just like every other religion, the cop outs are used "Well they arn't true Buddhists" "Those Buddhists didn't have the right teachers".

https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/4021...f-buddhism

This is just the tip of the ice burg. Point being it is not bigoted to say ALL religions are man made artificial constructs having NOTHING to do with our common existence and our modern scientific understanding of nature, evolution, human behavior, or the universe.

I really get fucking sick of the false accusation of bigotry or being falsely accused of being "militant" for simply pointing out willful ignorance. YES I get that people like what they believe, and from a human rights standpoint I will defend it, but at the same time I will put a blunt mirror to your logic in hopes that you will consider that ALL religions are superfluous placebos at best, and unfortunately still divisive and this post is yet another example.

Again, human rights are a given, but no religion on the face of the planet deserves a taboo.

"...he too had a birth that avoided the birth canal."

Yeah...but...little baby Jesus (LBJ) didn't "avoid" mummy's birth canal. There was only one way out. He went down that slippery slope, and ingested some healthy germs along the way, just like all babies did at the time. To avoid the birth canal, Mary would have had to have had a a caesarian section and that didn't happen...there were no obstetricians and she didn't have private health insurance. LBJ...it must be admitted... was just like a big hard pile of poo...he had to be pushed out.

LBJ's "daddy"...Joseph...had a bitter pill to swallow. LBJ, someone else's kid, (SOK) had surfed the vaginal canal...the same love tunnel into which he, Joseph, had been refused entry. SOK, LBJ, was now making a fuss and wanting to suck mummy's tits. Joe must have been seething with jealousy, and suffering from a bad case of DSB (deadly sperm buildup.) The three wise men (TWM)) couldn't give a fuck...they were too impressed with with size of mother Mary's tits, (MMTS.)

Here endeth the lesson. I hope everyone now appreciates the true meaning of Christmas.
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05-01-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(03-01-2016 12:21 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(30-12-2015 09:03 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Buddhism is a good example of how people create deities even when there isn't one.

Unenlightened deities are samsaric beings just like you and me.

Think of them more as extraterrestrials.

There's no more evidence for that than for any gods. Facepalm

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05-01-2016, 10:28 AM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(03-01-2016 09:39 PM)enochian Wrote:  
(03-01-2016 09:02 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Since that would of been earlier than a Cesar section.

Do you mean cesarean section?

Do you mean a Caesarian section? Consider

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05-01-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
All those extreme examples some people give don't sound like the middle path at all. Ha ha. Big Grin
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05-01-2016, 07:40 PM
RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
(05-01-2016 04:55 PM)LadyJane Wrote:  All those extreme examples some people give don't sound like the middle path at all. Ha ha. Big Grin

What I'm hearing is that most Buddhists don't understand the Buddha anymore than most Christians understand the Christ. Which is to say not at all. Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right.

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