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21-02-2014, 07:40 PM
Another wonderful debate
Just had a debate with a guy.

He said he believes in god. I wanted to know why.

So basically he said he can't live without belief in god.
I asked him what would happen if tomorrow we discovered there is no god. Turns out he will survive.
Then I asked him if he ever seen god. He didn't.
Then I asked if his god is capable of stopping a bullet. Turns out he does not.
So I asked him why he can't live without a belief in somebody who can't do something a vest can when he didn't even see him.
He then said why I was so angry at everyone.
I said I wasn't.
Then he went to smoke couple of times cause my questions were so complicated.

Then we tried to find what god is. Apparently it's love, hope and belief. He also says I can't live without belief in myself. I asked him if I am god. He said no. I asked him of he is god. He said no. So I said belief in god and myself are 2 different things and if god is not me then why believe in him.

He went to smoke again.

Then he come back and started telling me that when I will learn to love myself I will find god. Then he stopped responding.

What a wonderful debate.
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21-02-2014, 07:44 PM
RE: Another wonderful debate
You are having way too much fun Bowing

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21-02-2014, 07:47 PM (This post was last modified: 21-02-2014 07:50 PM by donotwant.)
RE: Another wonderful debate
They sure like to rename mundane things into gods. Like calling a belief a god. Or calling hope a god. So I asked him why would he need to believe in belief he then starts having hard time.
We also talked about love.
Him - "What is love?"
Me - "It's a state of human consciousness"
Him - "Oh yeah maybe it's also CHEMISTRY!?"
Me - "What does god have to do with it?"
Him - "Why are you so angry at everyone?"
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21-02-2014, 08:14 PM
RE: Another wonderful debate
(21-02-2014 07:47 PM)donotwant Wrote:  They sure like to rename mundane things into gods. Like calling a belief a god. Or calling hope a god. So I asked him why would he need to believe in belief he then starts having hard time.
We also talked about love.
Him - "What is love?"
Me - "It's a state of human consciousness"
Him - "Oh yeah maybe it's also CHEMISTRY!?"
Me - "What does god have to do with it?"
Him - "Why are you so angry at everyone?"

I think you touched a nerve with him...

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21-02-2014, 08:16 PM
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Well I want to find why belief in god is so important. They don't know why they believe. They are not going to die without it. They never seen god. Man can do more then god. So what is it about god that's so important? I talked to 30 people today. Did not get a single good answer.
And I am the one angry at everybody.
90% people refused to answer. There was one girl though who does not know what god is but believes because something inside her tells her to. Well at least she's honest.
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21-02-2014, 08:18 PM
RE: Another wonderful debate
(21-02-2014 07:47 PM)donotwant Wrote:  They sure like to rename mundane things into gods. Like calling a belief a god. Or calling hope a god. So I asked him why would he need to believe in belief he then starts having hard time.
We also talked about love.
Him - "What is love?"
Me - "It's a state of human consciousness"
Him - "Oh yeah maybe it's also CHEMISTRY!?"
Me - "What does god have to do with it?"
Him - "Why are you so angry at everyone?"

I've gotten the "why are you so angry at everyone" retort. It's like if you don't believe in god somehow you must be angry. My response it that I'm not angry at all, I'm just logical. Theists confuse logic with anger. Girl_nails

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21-02-2014, 08:42 PM
RE: Another wonderful debate
Yes, DoucheBag is fond of using that one. It's a fallback for when their bullshit has been destroyed.

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21-02-2014, 09:58 PM
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I think the reason a lot of people reject religion and become atheists is because of a natural tendency to question... Just because you've become an atheist doesn't mean the questions end, in many ways they increase in number.

I think the fact that atheists often pursue an argument to the bitter end makes us come across as being "angry"... What they mean when they say that is... "You're getting uncomfortably close to exposing the truth, so stop, please, its not fair, waaaaaaah...."

Its like saying a game is shit because you're crap at it...

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21-02-2014, 10:00 PM
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(21-02-2014 09:58 PM)Paranoidsam Wrote:  I think the fact that atheists often pursue an argument to the bitter end makes us come across as being "angry"... What they mean when they say that is... "You're getting uncomfortably close to exposing the truth, so stop, please, its not fair, waaaaaaah...."

Its like saying a game is shit because you're crap at it...

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21-02-2014, 10:10 PM
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(21-02-2014 07:47 PM)donotwant Wrote:  Him - "What is love?"





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