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01-06-2017, 09:46 PM
RE: Anti trump march June 3rd.
Protest won't make a single bit of difference.
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01-06-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: Anti trump march June 3rd.
(01-06-2017 09:46 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Protest won't make a single bit of difference.

Protests pretty much turned the Vietnam war around during the 60's. Protests made a difference for Black people in the US. If people just sit around sitting on their hands doing nothing, nothing will happen. If people don't speak up and take action nothing will happen. Protests DO make a difference.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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01-06-2017, 10:54 PM
RE: Anti trump march June 3rd.
It's riots that don't change anything. Well besides the neighborhood.

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02-06-2017, 03:18 AM
RE: Anti trump march June 3rd.
(01-06-2017 10:39 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 09:46 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Protest won't make a single bit of difference.

Protests pretty much turned the Vietnam war around during the 60's. Protests made a difference for Black people in the US. If people just sit around sitting on their hands doing nothing, nothing will happen. If people don't speak up and take action nothing will happen. Protests DO make a difference.

This ain't the 60's. And I never said do nothing, I'm simply saying that this protest could have literally every single person in the States that doesn't like Trump out on the streets and it won't make a single bit of difference as to who your President is OR stop you from leaving the Paris Accord.
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02-06-2017, 08:25 AM
RE: Anti trump march June 3rd.
(02-06-2017 03:18 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 10:39 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Protests pretty much turned the Vietnam war around during the 60's. Protests made a difference for Black people in the US. If people just sit around sitting on their hands doing nothing, nothing will happen. If people don't speak up and take action nothing will happen. Protests DO make a difference.

This ain't the 60's. And I never said do nothing, I'm simply saying that this protest could have literally every single person in the States that doesn't like Trump out on the streets and it won't make a single bit of difference as to who your President is OR stop you from leaving the Paris Accord.

(02-06-2017 03:18 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  This ain't the 60's.

No, it's 2017. What's that got to do with anything. Huge marches protesting specific issues get the attention of senators and representatives who want more than anything to get re-elected. They take notice of large crowds protesting, especially if these are their constituents.

The US was pretty much founded because people got so damned mad at not having a voice and protested and boycotted the UK. We have a long history of protests and marches and they have indeed made a difference.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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02-06-2017, 08:53 AM
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(01-06-2017 10:39 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Protests DO make a difference.

Questions are : How much of a difference? Enough to effect change?
And the all-important - is it already too late?

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02-06-2017, 08:57 AM
RE: Anti trump march June 3rd.
At the very least, it tells our elected officials that we aren't all on board with what is happening. They can easily ignore emails, phone calls, tweets, etc. Much harder to ignore thousands of unhappy people on the streets.

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02-06-2017, 09:10 AM
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(02-06-2017 08:57 AM)ShadowProject Wrote:  At the very least, it tells our elected officials that we aren't all on board with what is happening. They can easily ignore emails, phone calls, tweets, etc. Much harder to ignore thousands of unhappy people on the streets.

And yet, the biggest protest in history, the world-wide movement against American and British involvement in military involvement Iraq, made absolutely no difference whatsoever.

The thing about these sorts of protests, especially against Trump-style politicians, is that it only causes them - Trump et al - to double-down. They'll see it as being under siege, that they're the ones fighting the good fight and everyone else is wrong. See The Backfire Effect.

We've seen this, especially with Trump and his supporters, dozens of times. Facts don't matter. Reality doesn't matter. Common sense doesn't matter. What matters is blind obedience to the Dear Leader and all he stands for.

A quote by Ann Coulter pretty much sums up the Trumpian mentality:

Quote:My worship for him is like the people of North Korea worship their Dear Leader—blind loyalty.

Yes, she really did say that.
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02-06-2017, 09:33 AM
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It's not a panacea, but when you feel relatively powerless against this tyranny (as I do), it's at least something that I can do other than just complain on Facebook.

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02-06-2017, 09:44 AM
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(01-06-2017 07:40 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  
Quote:does this march have a name?

The "Trump Is As Dumb As A Bag Of Cunt Hair March?"

That is "President Covfefe" to you buddy.

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