Anyone have an opinion on Rome being a secular Empire?
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16-11-2014, 09:06 PM
Anyone have an opinion on Rome being a secular Empire?
Anyone have anything to say on how the Roman's were pretty dare 'secular' for their time? They probably had the most inclusive empire historically, prior to the reformation. Honestly, they did not ban worship of other deities, or place restrictions on worship as most people think. As long as it was on your 'own time' and not detrimental to Rome it was OK. They seem to be actually more tolerant than other prior and contemporary societies than most people normally think. Having such a overwhelming slave populace was probably the first reason. But is there any thoughts on this I may have missed?

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16-11-2014, 09:30 PM
RE: Anyone have an opinion on Rome being a secular Empire?
Some of their contemporary and earlier Chinese empires were more secular in their manners. There was a similar "religious" devotion to some ideals and leaders but not the same.

I don't know the details, but of what I've seen/read, I don't think they were as tolerant of opposition.

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16-11-2014, 09:33 PM
RE: Anyone have an opinion on Rome being a secular Empire?
They had to be more tolerant, the area they conquered was just too big (for the time) for them to forcefully instill Roman everything on everyone they conquer.

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16-11-2014, 10:19 PM
RE: Anyone have an opinion on Rome being a secular Empire?
(16-11-2014 09:06 PM)StorMFront Wrote:  Anyone have anything to say on how the Roman's were pretty dare 'secular' for their time? They probably had the most inclusive empire historically, prior to the reformation. Honestly, they did not ban worship of other deities, or place restrictions on worship as most people think. As long as it was on your 'own time' and not detrimental to Rome it was OK. They seem to be actually more tolerant than other prior and contemporary societies than most people normally think. Having such a overwhelming slave populace was probably the first reason. But is there any thoughts on this I may have missed?

The Romans, well at least the Roman Republic and early Empire were relatively lenient on their subjects in terms of religious freedoms, but I don't recall hearing of them being all that inclusive, given the practise of Romanization.

I'm not sure they can be called 'secular', at least not in the sense that we would use the word today since their myriad of deities were of considerable importance culturally and politically.

Personally, if there was any truly secular Empire, it was that of the Mongols: they had one of the most religiously open and diverse systems of the time; hell they were probably more religiously open than most of the world today. As far as I can tell, they seemed to have lacked an actual official religion in the Empire, unlike the Romans and Greeks.

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16-11-2014, 10:42 PM
RE: Anyone have an opinion on Rome being a secular Empire?
Historically, empires have tended to be more secular in nature out of necessity. Fundamentalism applied to too diverse a group off people just leads to internal conflict. Forced culture, religion included, is better suited to obtaining the fanatical support of a relatively small group of people.

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