Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
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29-10-2013, 08:21 AM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 05:34 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  You make a convincing argument, but outside of the Vatican they are mostly private. The Public Sector is defined as controlled by the government. While they do receive tax breaks by some governments, and do collect taxes in the Vatican, outside of the Vatican I would say they are still under their own control. A group of private individuals. At best I think you could call it a grey area, but still mostly private.

Yes.

I was presenting the antithesis to the implied thesis.

What you say is of course the reasonable synthesis. The Catholic church occupies a legal/political position sui generis.

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29-10-2013, 07:40 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(28-10-2013 09:57 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(28-10-2013 07:55 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  Not to mention that the Catholic Church is the largest private provider of healthcare to people with HIV/AIDS.

They're hardly private, though, are they? If by 'private' you mean 'non-governmental', then no, they hardly qualify.

They're a government department who've outlasted their government. Not to mention their headquarters and top officials are sovereign and independent. Hell, they've even got taxes.


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29-10-2013, 08:16 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 07:40 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(28-10-2013 09:57 PM)cjlr Wrote:  They're hardly private, though, are they? If by 'private' you mean 'non-governmental', then no, they hardly qualify.

They're a government department who've outlasted their government. Not to mention their headquarters and top officials are sovereign and independent. Hell, they've even got taxes.


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No, they used to be one. The Pope is still considered a Dignitary and head of state as far as international law is concerned. That's why Pope Palpatine was never charged with conspiracy to endanger children and the various other crimes he should be locked in a cell for.

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29-10-2013, 08:30 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 08:16 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Pope Palpatine


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Really? Pope Palpatine?

Dude, c'mon.

Do better than that, and come back. The pope never did anything, in fact, the Pope is a very liberal one.
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29-10-2013, 08:38 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 08:30 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 08:16 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Pope Palpatine


-_-

Really? Pope Palpatine?

Dude, c'mon.

Do better than that, and come back. The pope never did anything, in fact, the Pope is a very liberal one.

Not talking about Frankie.

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29-10-2013, 08:41 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 08:38 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 08:30 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  -_-

Really? Pope Palpatine?

Dude, c'mon.

Do better than that, and come back. The pope never did anything, in fact, the Pope is a very liberal one.

Not talking about Frankie.

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was procured by the image. Could you point towards a thingie in some credible thing about his evildoings? Tongue
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29-10-2013, 08:52 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 08:41 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 08:38 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Not talking about Frankie.

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was procured by the image. Could you point towards a thingie in some credible thing about his evildoings? Tongue

Well we can start with what he did with heading the cover up of the pedophilia scandal and then there is the one he had to "retire" from a for life position. Dude was shady as hell.

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29-10-2013, 08:54 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 08:52 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 08:41 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  I must admit: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO​LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

was procured by the image. Could you point towards a thingie in some credible thing about his evildoings? Tongue

Well we can start with what he did with heading the cover up of the pedophilia scandal and then there is the one he had to "retire" from a for life position. Dude was shady as hell.

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29-10-2013, 09:21 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
(29-10-2013 07:40 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  [Image: Preview?imageID=4876787&generato...ngle=false]

The Church in late antiquity was an arm of the Roman state. That's why they're called dioceses. That's why the Pope is the pontifex. That's why they use Latin.

They have diplomatic missions.

The Church's temporal power has waned but not been extinguished - Vatican City is independent and the Holy See is a distinct legal entity to the present day.

Read a book, guy. Please.

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29-10-2013, 09:47 PM
RE: Anyone see this fake Magellan quote?
I'm not sure you perceived the pic the way he intended it. I think it was meant to mean "Yeah, of course they do". I could be wrong though. It happens on occasion Tongue

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