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16-02-2015, 04:13 PM
RE: Appalling artcile on NPR blames anti-theists
Extremism doesn't lend itself to a philosophy that's intrinsically self generated.

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In other words ---

"God" ain't telling us what to do.

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The difference between prayer and masturbation - is when a guy is through masturbating - he has something to show for his efforts.
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16-02-2015, 05:45 PM
RE: Appalling artcile on NPR blames anti-theists
Exactly. Atheism is the non-religion of peace. Nothing in our message boards or books could lead to this kind of violence. Don't they know that we are the ones being oppressed here? No true atheist could do something like this, and anyway if he was an atheist he was clearly mentally deranged and not acting out of his atheism. The media is unfairly targeting atheists when they should be going after the real culprit here, which is this one lone wolf.

There is no need for self-criticism here. There is no reason to take a step back and consider the implications of this crime. There is no reason to reflect and consider whether a fringe group could exist within atheism that is motivated to harm religious individuals such as muslims.

There is no need for self-reflection.

There is no need for thoughtful consideration.

It wasn't like real people died here. This story is about us, not them.

Right?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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16-02-2015, 06:51 PM
RE: Appalling artcile on NPR blames anti-theists
(16-02-2015 05:45 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  Exactly. Atheism is the non-religion of peace. Nothing in our message boards or books could lead to this kind of violence. Don't they know that we are the ones being oppressed here? No true atheist could do something like this, and anyway if he was an atheist he was clearly mentally deranged and not acting out of his atheism. The media is unfairly targeting atheists when they should be going after the real culprit here, which is this one lone wolf.

There is no need for self-criticism here. There is no reason to take a step back and consider the implications of this crime. There is no reason to reflect and consider whether a fringe group could exist within atheism that is motivated to harm religious individuals such as muslims.

There is no need for self-reflection.

There is no need for thoughtful consideration.

It wasn't like real people died here. This story is about us, not them.

Right?
The title of the article is Some see extreme anti-theism as motive in NC killings.
Its subject is the movement, not the victims. Of course we are all very sorry for the victims' families. Of course we are deeply saddened that a deranged individual may have used non-belief as a basis for murder. That much goes without saying.

The article fails to offer any basis for thoughtful consideration about the movement. It provides no evidence for any shortcomings or dangers upon which to reflect. What it does is to vilify anyone who doesn't fit the author's definition of mainstream, including most users of this site. All as a result of the actions of a lone wolf as you say.

Atheism is the non-religion of peace. I welcome compelling evidence to the contrary. Upon which I will gladly reflect, and speak out against. As we all know, some prominent religions also preach peace, while their holy books and history are filled with bloody violence. The author provides no such creed or other rationale for the supposed threat of violence by anti-theists. Hence the outrage.
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17-02-2015, 04:29 AM
RE: Appalling artcile on NPR blames anti-theists
But anti-theist extremists don't or can't exist? Or are you proposing that the actions of an anti-theist who murders with a motive of anti-theism shouldn't reflect badly on any segment of the anti-theist movement?

I'm wondering if you would give the same leeway to a Muslim extremist?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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