Apparently I'm a satan worshipper (Omegle)

[Vosur]

You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!

You and the stranger both like Religion.

Stranger: Hello

You: Hi there

Stranger: Whats up?

You: Are you religious?

Stranger: I am

Stranger: You?

You: Not at all. Would you like to discuss about religion?

Stranger: What about?

You: Well, for example, why do you believe?

Stranger: Well, being Catholic, I read about Miracles and such.... And I felt compelled to believe

You: Where have you read about miracles?

Stranger: What about you?

You: I don't believe in any god because there is no rational reason to do so

Stranger: I have read stuff on the Lady of Fatima and the incorruptable saints.

You: There are scientific explanations for that

Stranger: Where?

You: Give me a second so that I can provide you with a source

Stranger: Only God can make such things.

Stranger: Through the power of the Holy Spirit

You: http://bigthink.com/ideas/phenomenon-inc...d?page=all

Stranger: Plus, The Church investigates the miracles, so they can certify it being real.

You: The church is majorly biased

Stranger: Says you.

You: Of course they will certify that their own claims are true, but it takes other people to verify it as well

Stranger: Based on what method?

You: Investigation, research, etc.

For example: parts of the bodies of these saints are made out of wax

Stranger: God only reveals things in the Church, so its expected to have science, or the Satan Worshippers not find a Holy explination.

Stranger: So, you can't trust science for miracles.

You: That's the point. "Holy" explanations are neither rational nor logical if they can't be verified by science.

Stranger: Its sad to see you worship Science as your God, turn to Jesus

You: Science is not a god, science is method of researching and learning about our universe

Stranger: .... That's right..... My bad.

Stranger: Satan is your God.

You: I don't believe that Satan exists, just like I don't believe that God exists

Stranger: Are you an atheist?

You: An agnostic atheist

Stranger: HEATHEN!

Stranger: Tell me, how do you know there isn't a God.

Stranger: You arrogant child.

You: I think you don't know what agnostic atheism is

You: We don't know whether or not there is a god, that is the point

Stranger: Atheism is the Denial of God, the willingness to worship Satan.

You: The dictionary definition:

atheism
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

You: Satan is a surpreme being as well

Stranger: Aha! So you admit Satan is your Supreme Being, which reveals you do believe in God, since you can't believe in Satan without God.

You: What are you talking about? Satan is a surpreme being, not my surpreme being. Atheists do not believe that any being like satan and god exist.

Your conversational partner has disconnected.

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Logical fallacies:
Argument from ignorance
Argumentum ad hominem
Appeal to authority
Appeal to emotion
Confirmation bias
Strawman
Texas Sharpshooter

[kim]

Awh, I imagine this stranger to be a girl... don't know why... but I also imagine her to be a sweet little Christee retard who thinks she's won an argument with an atheist because she hung up first.
So... I now bestow angel farts upon her. *********************** ************************

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[GirlyMan]

Trolling Christians just don't seem that much fun to me since you're just casting for mullet.

[Vosur]

What a coincidence. I searched for a new conversation partner after that and I had the opportunity to talk to her again. It's much longer than the first one, which is why I put it in spoilers.

You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!

You and the stranger both like Religion.

You: Hi

Stranger: Hello

You: Are you religious?

Stranger: Yeah, Catholic.

Stranger: You?

Stranger: Please tell me not a atheist..... I was having a discussion with a nasty Satan Worshipper before, and he disconnected.

You: I think you're the one I talked to a few minutes ago - it's a shame you disconnected

Stranger: ......

Stranger: ......

You: Quite a coincidence, huh?

Stranger: God must want me to preach to you.

You: Exactly

Stranger: So you turn from your sinning ways

Stranger: So, Demon. Have you come to test my faith?

You: Yes, indeed

You: Although I'm not a demon

Stranger: Jesus is the Word, and his flesh became the Word

Stranger: Therefore the Word is reliable.

Stranger: Since the Word is the Bible, the Bible is reliable

You: That's circular reasoning

You: And every other religion can use it

You: The Qu'ran is true because the Qu'ran says so

You: The Thora is true because the Thora says so

Stranger: The Koran is false

Stranger: The Torah is incomplete

You: How do you know that the Qu'ran is false?

Stranger: Because Jesus is the Word

Stranger: And the Word is the Bible

You: The Bible never mentions the Qu'ran being false

You: Because it didn't exist until about 600 years later

Stranger: The Bible says Jesus was the Messiah, the Koran does not.

Stranger: Since the Koran denies that obvious fact, it is false

You: The Bible also says that our earth is about 6.000-10.000 years old

Stranger: It is.

You: It's not. It has been proven to be about 4 billion years old with the help of radiometric dating

Stranger: With your "Method" science.

Stranger: With the head preist being SATAN

You: People who do not believe in god are not organized, religious people are

Stranger: So you admit your not Organized and Civil- Proof you have no morals without religion.

You: Are you serious?

Stranger: Did Jesus die on the Cross?.... Yes I am serious.

Stranger: I want to save you from the fires of hell.

You: Have you ever heard about Poe's Law?

Stranger: .

Stranger: ?

You: "Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of religious or other fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane."

Stranger: ....

Stranger: Satanic reasoning...

Stranger: No wonder u are rude!

Stranger: Please turn to Jesus!

You: I am rude? You're the one calling me a heathen

Stranger: I have a question: Why would you gamble your sole on their being no God.

You: Pascal's Wager?

Stranger: Believe and if its true, Heaven. If it isn't nothing.

Stranger: Why deny Jesus?

Stranger: Its a winning bet.

You: Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. What if Islam is the right religion?

Stranger: Its not, because Jesus is the Word, and The Word was flesh.

Stranger: And the Word is the Bible.

You: Muslim people say the exact same things about their book of faith

Stranger: Since the Koran is conflicting with the Bible, it isn't true.

You: The Bible is conflicting with the Koran, therefore it isn't true

You: See how that works out?

Stranger: But the Bible is true!

You: You have no way of knowing that

Stranger: I do know it! The miracles!

You: ... are disproven by science

Stranger: The healings, the Lady of Fatima, the Lady of Lourdes!

Stranger: The millions of people who believe!

You: Has there ever been an amputee who was miraculously heal?

Stranger: They can't be wrong!

You: A few hundred years ago, the overwhelming majority thought that the earth was flat

Stranger: But God revealed to them the truth!

Stranger: By allowing the persons to sail!

You: It's the Bible who claims that the earth is flat

Stranger: Its metaphor

You: How do you know?

Stranger: Because it isn't true

Stranger: Therefore it must be a metaphor

You: Do you think that the story of Adam and Eve is true?

Stranger: Because the people of back then were retards?

Stranger: Yes,

Stranger: I believe in Adam and Eve.

You: Even though it has been disproven to the same amount that the hypothesis that the earth is flat has been disproven?

Stranger: God reveals the Truth only through the Church, so Science is wrong.

You: It was the church that denied the claim that the earth is round

You: They admitted it about 60 years ago

You: Even though the theory had been established hundreds of years before that

Stranger: Science is wrongl

Stranger: The church is right.

Stranger: Its the only thing that keeps me from becoming a Satan Worshipper and an immoral person, like you.

You: Non-religious people are not immoral

You: Do you know how many non-religious organizations that help people are there?

Stranger: Where do their Morality come from, if not from Jesus

You: Evolution

Stranger: Evolution is false

Stranger: God controls everything

Stranger: Except for people

Stranger: They were granted free will.

You: And how do you know that?

Stranger: The Bible

You: The Bible doesn't say that you have free will

Stranger: ....

Stranger: The Pope

You: The Pope doesn't say so either

Stranger: ....

Stranger: ...

Stranger: We have free will!

You: The Bible tells you to believe the opposite, you're being a heretic

Stranger: Why are you argueing for non free will?

You: Science.

Stranger: Have you accepted Jesus, or have you still embraced Satan?

You: Neither of them

You: Because there is no evidence for the existence of both of them

You: But back to my question, why do you believe something that contradicts what is written in the Bible?

Stranger: Prove they don't exist!

Stranger: Then I will believe you!

You: First you'll have to answer my question

Stranger: Because God Graced me with Free will!

Stranger: Therefore Free will exists!

You: The Bible says you have no free will, therefore you have no free will

Stranger: Free will exists.

You: Also, how am I supposed to prove the non-existence of a non-physical being with the tools that are available in our physical realm?

Stranger: I hope you burn in Hell.

Your conversational partner has disconnected.

Logical fallacies:
Argument from ignorance
Argumentum ad hominem
Appeal to emotion
Appeal to popularity
Begging the question
Composition
Strawman

[GirlyMan]

(29-07-2012 12:11 AM)Vosur Wrote:  What a coincidence. I searched for a new conversation partner after that and I had the opportunity to talk to her again. It's much longer than the first one, which is why I put it in spoilers.

And now you've gone from trolling the mullet to taunting it. You kill it you eat it.

[Erxomai]

(28-07-2012 11:11 PM)Vosur Wrote:  Stranger: Satan is your God.


Stranger: HEATHEN!


Stranger: You arrogant child.


Stranger: Aha! So you admit Satan is your Supreme Being, which reveals you do believe in God, since you can't believe in Satan without God.

Son, you done and got yoself pwnd!

[Vosur]

Wow! A third time. It's getting more and more hilarious. She's really unlucky because I'm supposedly the only one using the same interests in my search.

You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!

You and the stranger both like Religion.

Stranger: Hello

You: Hi there

Stranger: Are you religious?

Stranger: I need some faith strengthining

Stranger: I just encountered a demon twice

You: Three times, actually.

Stranger: He tried to debate.

Stranger: :O

You: God wants me to test you

Stranger: Shit....

Stranger: It must be God's will.

You: Then why are you resisting?

Stranger: Because I have free will

You: Didn't we establish that you actually don't?

Stranger: Its faith

Stranger: I choose to believe in free will.

Stranger: Since I side with God, I can't be wring

Stranger: Wrong*

You: Faith is believing in something without evidence

Stranger: Science is faith as well

You: Science is based on evidene, research and rational thinking

You: *evidence

Stranger: Evidence can be wrong.

Stranger: Evidence is influenced by Satan, lord of lies.

Stranger: Turn your heart to God, and believe in the only information you need, Catholicism

You: Sure, evidence can be wrong

You: But the evidence for, for example, Evolution, is not

Stranger: Hahahahaha!

Stranger: You admited science is wrong!

You: For example, the evidence for God is wrong

Stranger: Therefore religion is correctz,

You: I didn't say that science is wrong, I said that evidence can be false

Stranger: Religion has been around longer than science.

Stranger: Why would you keep it around if it was false.

You: That's a logical fallacy

You: "It's true because it's older"

You: Jewism is older than Christianity

Stranger: God is not logical

Stranger: Jews are evil.

You: Jesus was a jew

Stranger: Lies!

Stranger: He was born the messiah.

Stranger: Not a jew.

You: >Jews are evil
>Jesus was a Jew
>Jesus was evil

You: He can be both the Messiah and a jew

You: In fact, he was supposedly the Messiah of the jewish religion

Stranger: ... Were u an ex-catholic?

Stranger: Were you religious*

You: I used to be a baptist

Stranger: Ahhh...

Stranger: Then you weren't a REAL christian, no wonder you worship Satan now.

You: That's a logical fallacy, the "no true scotsman fallacy", to be exact

Stranger: ....fuck your fallacies.

Stranger: Doesn't mean its not true,

You: Actually, it does

Stranger: .....

Stranger: ....

Stranger: ....

You: "In this form of faulty reasoning one's belief is rendered unfalsifiable because no matter how compelling the evidence is, one simply shifts the goalposts so that it wouldn't apply to a supposedly 'true' example. This kind of post-rationalization is a way of avoiding valid criticisms of one's argument."

Stranger: I'll pray for you

Your conversational partner has disconnected.

[Vlad]

Oh wow this shit is hilarious Rofl.

[earmuffs]

Quote:Stranger: They were granted free will.

You: And how do you know that?

Stranger: The Bible

You: The Bible doesn't say that you have free will

Stranger: ....

Stranger: The Pope

You: The Pope doesn't say so either

Stranger: ....

Stranger: ...

Stranger: We have free will!

lol.

[GirlyMan]

Fuck it, Ima gonna give it a go.