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17-11-2012, 01:16 PM (This post was last modified: 17-11-2012 01:26 PM by Vosur.)
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic...
(17-11-2012 12:53 PM)Luminon Wrote:  
(16-11-2012 10:51 AM)Boota Wrote:  I just want to make sure I'm being understood. I am not claiming psychic powers at all. My title was very tongue in cheek. The co-worker did tell me that, but I have no reason to believe or disbelieve him. I wasn't paying any attention and seriously doubt his claim, though. I just thought it was funny that if such a thing as psychic powers did exist then THAT, of all things, would be mine. It reminded me of when my deeply religious grandmother saw David Blaine and said his tricks were done through "Satanic power". I couldn't think of a worse use of Satanic power. All the possible powers of a myriad of dark and sinister forces arrayed at your command. You can control the destiny of the entire world, bringing yourself to ultimate power. Instead... "Is this your card?"
You don't have to tell me, I know how diffcult is to determine whether there is anything "out there" or not. Nobody should be convinced by a single phenomenon observed just once.
I'm just sayin', I suspect most of these people with "psychic powers" (TV is full of them mediums) are driven by their emotional and instinctive nature. Whether it's "supernatural" or not, I think it's a kind of primitive animal sensitivity and our ancestors relied on it for a long time before the beginnings of civilization and thought. I suspect it literally stops working when they get anywhere near using the rational, critical parts of brain or meet someone who doubts and tries to make them doubt or just observe and understand what they're doing.

(15-11-2012 01:43 PM)Chas Wrote:  It's called 'special pleading'.
Gross discounters of the turd kind.
It's not special pleading, when it's a part of hypothesis. I just don't want science to fail, because it is ignorant about other forms of matter besides the one our instruments are made of. How could they then measure properly? If we use such instruments and don't know exactly what to look for, there is only a weak interaction and random results, either within error margin or unrepeatable. I don't want anyone ever say... *in Seth's special voice* "Sorry folks, there is this different type of matter that doesn't stay in vacuum chambers very much, but concentrates in people like a freakin' aura field, we didn't think of that one! How come you didn't tell us?"

The hypothesis says, a living human body is made of both kinds of matter, so it's superior to instruments in that aspect and deserves special attention. But to get reasonable reports from a person (so we know whom to test by instruments and whom send away) is much harder than to get readings from an instrument. There is a need for preparatory field work before exact methods can be applied. I welcome that John Heron developed some methods to work with people instead of condemning them for their sinful, fallible and inexact human nature into the CHASm of eternal scorn.

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A logical fallacy committed within a hypothesis is a logical fallacy nonetheless. What makes you think otherwise? Having said that, the term "rationalization" probably fits your description better than "special pleading".

Edit: Also, your extensive usage of ad hoc hypothesizing is getting tiresome.

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Apparently, I'm psychic... - Boota - 06-11-2012, 11:52 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 06-11-2012, 11:56 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Erxomai - 06-11-2012, 12:05 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Boota - 06-11-2012, 12:14 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Boota - 06-11-2012, 02:26 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - GirlyMan - 06-11-2012, 06:14 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - GirlyMan - 07-11-2012, 12:03 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - nach_in - 07-11-2012, 12:21 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Boota - 07-11-2012, 04:02 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - nach_in - 07-11-2012, 04:14 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - bemore - 07-11-2012, 05:14 AM
Apparently, I'm psychic... - Erxomai - 07-11-2012, 09:21 AM
Apparently, I'm psychic... - Erxomai - 07-11-2012, 09:25 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 07-11-2012, 10:19 AM
Apparently, I'm psychic... - Erxomai - 07-11-2012, 10:21 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - GirlyMan - 12-11-2012, 01:25 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - ddrew - 12-11-2012, 01:43 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - GirlyMan - 12-11-2012, 01:56 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - ddrew - 12-11-2012, 02:02 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - GirlyMan - 12-11-2012, 02:31 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - ddrew - 12-11-2012, 03:20 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 13-11-2012, 06:05 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 15-11-2012, 09:20 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 15-11-2012, 12:30 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Chas - 15-11-2012, 01:43 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 17-11-2012, 12:53 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 17-11-2012 01:16 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 17-11-2012, 02:12 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 17-11-2012, 03:03 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 17-11-2012, 05:58 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 18-11-2012, 01:47 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 20-11-2012, 03:36 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 01-12-2012, 12:54 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 04-12-2012, 06:46 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 14-12-2012, 11:46 PM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Luminon - 21-12-2012, 06:23 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Boota - 16-11-2012, 10:51 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Vosur - 16-11-2012, 11:13 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Filox - 27-11-2012, 06:17 AM
RE: Apparently, I'm psychic... - Lukas1986 - 13-07-2013, 02:08 AM
Apparently, I'm psychic... - Erxomai - 13-07-2013, 06:02 AM
Apparently, I'm psychic... - Erxomai - 13-07-2013, 08:30 AM
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