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15-08-2014, 09:33 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(15-08-2014 09:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  What is different between it being illusions for the eye witnessed?

An illusion has an objective reference, but a hallucination does not.
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15-08-2014, 09:47 PM
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15-08-2014, 09:54 PM
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(15-08-2014 09:33 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(15-08-2014 09:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  What is different between it being illusions for the eye witnessed?

An illusion has an objective reference, but a hallucination does not.

Okay, what I'm actually asking is how do you determine it wasn't illusions the eye witnesses experienced. Illusions be something fooling masses of people; it's how magicians operate,

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15-08-2014, 11:11 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(15-08-2014 09:22 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(15-08-2014 09:08 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Your hallucination is a distinction without a difference. Thousands of people said they saw the sun dance.

When you claim you believe something but it is not true your belief is delusional. This is what the 9/11 suicide bombers have.

Seeing something far off in the distance is an illusion such as the sun dancing. It does not qualify as a hallucination because it has an objective reference which is the sun.

Therefore, the burden remains on you to find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings.

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16-08-2014, 12:34 AM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(15-08-2014 09:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  What is different between it being illusions for the eye witnessed?

An eyewitness can eyewitness an illusion and an actual event but not a hallucination with others because hallucinations are individually observed. They take place in the person's mind alone with no objective reference.
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16-08-2014, 12:52 AM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 12:34 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(15-08-2014 09:31 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  What is different between it being illusions for the eye witnessed?

An eyewitness can eyewitness an illusion and an actual event but not a hallucination with others because hallucinations are individually observed. They take place in the person's mind alone with no objective reference.

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16-08-2014, 01:24 AM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 12:52 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 12:34 AM)hbl Wrote:  An eyewitness can eyewitness an illusion and an actual event but not a hallucination with others because hallucinations are individually observed. They take place in the person's mind alone with no objective reference.

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Thanks.
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16-08-2014, 02:10 AM
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(16-08-2014 01:24 AM)hbl Wrote:  
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Thanks.

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16-08-2014, 02:29 AM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(15-08-2014 09:22 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(15-08-2014 09:08 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Your hallucination is a distinction without a difference. Thousands of people said they saw the sun dance.

When you claim you believe something but it is not true your belief is delusional. This is what the 9/11 suicide bombers have.

Seeing something far off in the distance is an illusion such as the sun dancing. It does not qualify as a hallucination because it has an objective reference which is the sun.

Therefore, the burden remains on you to find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings.

Non sequitur. Your point does not follow from your premise. Fail again. Try going to school.

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16-08-2014, 03:32 AM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 12:52 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 12:34 AM)hbl Wrote:  An eyewitness can eyewitness an illusion and an actual event but not a hallucination with others because hallucinations are individually observed. They take place in the person's mind alone with no objective reference.

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