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16-08-2014, 11:59 AM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 11:53 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 11:47 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Have you never heard of mass hysteria?

Have you ever heard of group hallucinations? There is a reason for that, it can't happen.

Never been to an acid party have you. Drinking Beverage

(16-08-2014 04:05 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Are you on drugs ?

You're giving drugs a bad name.

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16-08-2014, 12:19 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 11:53 AM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 11:47 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Have you never heard of mass hysteria?

Have you ever heard of group hallucinations? There is a reason for that, it can't happen.

It can happen, ever heard of War of the Worlds? Something that can affect many people, cause fear or something can cause many people to hallucinate. Orson Welles told a story about aliens attacking Earth over the radio. It caused mass hysteria which cause people to behave odd, that fear could have triggered hallucinations in many people. When someone tells someone else "Hey I saw Jesus", especially a believer, they want it to be true which could cause them so hallucinate and "see him" too.

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16-08-2014, 12:25 PM
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(16-08-2014 12:19 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  It can happen, ever heard of War of the Worlds? Something that can affect many people, cause fear or something can cause many people to hallucinate. Orson Welles told a story about aliens attacking Earth over the radio. It caused mass hysteria which cause people to behave odd, that fear could have triggered hallucinations in many people. When someone tells someone else "Hey I saw Jesus", especially a believer, they want it to be true which could cause them so hallucinate and "see him" too.

People can hallucinate different things but according to the DM-5 Psychology Manual they are unable to hallucinate the same thing.

Mass hysteria or delusion is of a belief doesn't answer the question of group hallucination which takes place with the eyes.

So when in one case you had 7 Apostles together with Jesus they could not have had a group hallucination. It's scientifically impossible.

One could say, therefore, you are being delusional about it.
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16-08-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 12:25 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 12:19 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  It can happen, ever heard of War of the Worlds? Something that can affect many people, cause fear or something can cause many people to hallucinate. Orson Welles told a story about aliens attacking Earth over the radio. It caused mass hysteria which cause people to behave odd, that fear could have triggered hallucinations in many people. When someone tells someone else "Hey I saw Jesus", especially a believer, they want it to be true which could cause them so hallucinate and "see him" too.

People can hallucinate different things but according to the DM-5 Psychology Manual they are unable to hallucinate the same thing.

Mass hysteria or delusion is of a belief doesn't answer the question of group hallucination which takes place with the eyes.

So when in one case you had 7 Apostles together with Jesus they could not have had a group hallucination. It's scientifically impossible.

One could say, therefore, you are being delusional about it.

Proof? Repeating the same thing over and over again does not make it any more true you retard.

It's also a fucking story.

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16-08-2014, 12:37 PM
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And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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16-08-2014, 12:40 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 12:25 PM)hbl Wrote:  It's scientifically impossible.

You and Mozart's Winkie keep using that word.




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16-08-2014, 04:57 PM
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(16-08-2014 12:25 PM)hbl Wrote:  Jesus. It's scientifically impossible.

I agree. Jesus is scientifically impossible.

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16-08-2014, 06:31 PM
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(16-08-2014 04:57 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  Jesus is scientifically impossible.

Why is the most documented person in antiquity impossible and other less documented are not?
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16-08-2014, 06:34 PM
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(16-08-2014 06:31 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 04:57 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  Jesus is scientifically impossible.

Why is the most documented person in antiquity impossible and other less documented are not?

Considering that this documentation you keep mentioning is full of contradictions, how do we determine what is the truth?

The 'eyewitness' accounts are suspect, at best.

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16-08-2014, 06:52 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 06:34 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Considering that this documentation you keep mentioning is full of contradictions, how do we determine what is the truth?
The 'eyewitness' accounts are suspect, at best.

There are no contradictions. Scholars have answered the many alleged contradictions. If you don't want to know the answers you're free to shut your mind down.

You can't ask for a better set of eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings. As a historical standard it holds to the highest of standards. So the burden is on you to find a naturalistic explanation to account for their eyewitness testimony. If you can't find any then give your life to Christ.

Moreover, the entire Bible doesn't have to be 100% correct. As long as the Minimal Facts Approach holds up then the proof stands. MFA says, basically, since the most agreed upon text of the entire Bible by scholars is 1 Cor. 15, Gal. 1 & 2 it is fair to ask what we can garner from Paul's genuine writings here. He said he spent 15 days with Peter one of the original eyewitnesses who spent 3 years with Jesus. And he spent time with James and John who also saw Jesus resurrected. Add to that Paul's testimony he saw Jesus they were all in agreement, on the same page, of the gospel message: Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world, that He is God, and rose the 3rd day.
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