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16-08-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
I think we need absols to translate for us.

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16-08-2014, 07:00 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 12:25 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 12:19 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  It can happen, ever heard of War of the Worlds? Something that can affect many people, cause fear or something can cause many people to hallucinate. Orson Welles told a story about aliens attacking Earth over the radio. It caused mass hysteria which cause people to behave odd, that fear could have triggered hallucinations in many people. When someone tells someone else "Hey I saw Jesus", especially a believer, they want it to be true which could cause them so hallucinate and "see him" too.

People can hallucinate different things but according to the DM-5 Psychology Manual they are unable to hallucinate the same thing.

Mass hysteria or delusion is of a belief doesn't answer the question of group hallucination which takes place with the eyes.

So when in one case you had 7 Apostles together with Jesus they could not have had a group hallucination. It's scientifically impossible.

One could say, therefore, you are being delusional about it.

Provide us with page, and chapter # where the DSM says that.

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16-08-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 06:31 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 04:57 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  Jesus is scientifically impossible.

Why is the most documented person in antiquity impossible and other less documented are not?

He's not. He's ONLY mentioned by people who believed in him.

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16-08-2014, 07:03 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 06:34 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Considering that this documentation you keep mentioning is full of contradictions, how do we determine what is the truth?
The 'eyewitness' accounts are suspect, at best.

There are no contradictions. Scholars have answered the many alleged contradictions. If you don't want to know the answers you're free to shut your mind down.

You can't ask for a better set of eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings. As a historical standard it holds to the highest of standards. So the burden is on you to find a naturalistic explanation to account for their eyewitness testimony. If you can't find any then give your life to Christ.

Moreover, the entire Bible doesn't have to be 100% correct. As long as the Minimal Facts Approach holds up then the proof stands. MFA says, basically, since the most agreed upon text of the entire Bible by scholars is 1 Cor. 15, Gal. 1 & 2 it is fair to ask what we can garner from Paul's genuine writings here. He said he spent 15 days with Peter one of the original eyewitnesses who spent 3 years with Jesus. And he spent time with James and John who also saw Jesus resurrected. Add to that Paul's testimony he saw Jesus they were all in agreement, on the same page, of the gospel message: Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world, that He is God, and rose the 3rd day.
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16-08-2014, 07:04 PM
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(16-08-2014 06:31 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 04:57 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  Jesus is scientifically impossible.

Why is the most documented person in antiquity impossible and other less documented are not?

More documentation doesn't alter the factuality.

Cesar isn't believed to be a God though it was claimed before. Not because there's not enough documentation of him, it's because it's scientifically invalid.

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16-08-2014, 07:08 PM
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(16-08-2014 07:04 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  More documentation doesn't alter the factuality.

There is more than enough documentation so that is not a valid excuse to say there is not enough documentation. What historians really like about the 27 books of the NT is it is so well multiply corroborated by the eyewitness Apostles and those who knew them personally such as Luke and Mark. In addition to that extra-Biblical documentation both from Christian and non-Christian sources further substantiate it.
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16-08-2014, 07:18 PM
RE: Are Atheists Zombies?
(16-08-2014 07:03 PM)hbl Wrote:  If you can't find any then give your life to Christ.

Yeah that ain't got it. Christ gave his life to me. I didn't give up shit. Be your own personal Jesus, your own personal Lord and Savior. That is The Word.



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16-08-2014, 07:27 PM
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(16-08-2014 07:18 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Christ gave his life to me.

That's right, but since you refuse it, you will go to Hell.
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16-08-2014, 07:57 PM
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(16-08-2014 07:27 PM)hbl Wrote:  
(16-08-2014 07:18 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Christ gave his life to me.

That's right, but since you refuse it, you will go to Hell.

Is that particular hell in space and time?

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16-08-2014, 08:12 PM
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(16-08-2014 07:57 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Is that particular hell in space and time?

Yes of course.

Only God exists outside of time and space.
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