Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
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26-03-2011, 12:20 PM
Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
I've been noticing this more and more over the past few years. While walking down the road you get ignored, given 'dirty looks' and if you bump into someone the the likelihood of getting an apology or acknowledgment of your own apology is very low.
However, if you are walking down the street smoking and another smoker comes the other way then you nod to each other, say "good morning" or similar. Or if you're waiting for a bus and you find your lighter doesn't want to work, it normally only takes a second for a guy opposite to offer you his lighter or visa versa, which then often leads to a conversation. Usually this is people of any class too; wether an income benefit scally who looks like he's been in too many punch ups, or a businessman in a suit with a cigar.

I've seen this effect regularly in many different towns in the UK Lincoln, Liverpool, Ipswich, Boston, Grantham to name a few.

Wondering if anyone else has seen this effect in any other country, or even different areas of the UK?

Not sure if this is really 'Philosophy' subject, but kinda seems like it.

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26-03-2011, 12:32 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
I wouldn't really know, I don't smoke and stay as far away from smokers as possible.
I'm wondering if the cause and effect is round the wrong way, perhaps its the type of people who would ordinarily be social to strangers on the street who smoke anyway...
Perhaps this would have been better suited to Health/psychology - emphasis on the psychology.

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26-03-2011, 12:46 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
I'm an on-again-off-again smoker. I usually smoke when I'm in school because of the stress but have no trouble quitting. It's weird its easy for me to pick up the habit and not so hard for me to drop it.

Anyways, I guess I've noticed that to some extent too. But I wonder if it's a regional thing, I live in West Michigan and people are usually friendly anyways

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26-03-2011, 01:02 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
Smoking is so stigmatized it's no wonder people attempt to keep it at a distance unless they're fellow smokers. Also don't smoke at bus stops unless you're gonna stand upwind. I don't care if want your lungs tarred over but keep that gunk away from me. I hate people who can't have the common decency to keep their nasty habit away from people they aren't familiar with, it's incredibly rude and it makes you look like an asshole.

I have nothing against smokers it's just when you get that crap near me that it becomes a problem. ESPECIALLY BUS STOPS OH GOD IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN JUST LEAVE OR SOMETHING I'M WAITING FOR THE BUS.

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26-03-2011, 01:08 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
The worst is walking through the doors of a public building into a cloud of smoke from the people standing there because they can't smoke inside. This bugs me to no end, and I'm a smoker!!

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26-03-2011, 05:08 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
I will note that I often only smoke once or twice a week, but I've noticed no difference in how average people treat you walking, it's just when I am smoking that suddenly I've made a lot of friends on the street.

And ya, smoking right on the bus stop was a social suicide even before all the persecution of smokers started, at least in my experience xD
One of my friends had a "10 paces rule" for that one :3

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26-03-2011, 10:18 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
I have never noticed the effect you state. I have an easier time getting smiles, meeting and talking to people now that I don't smoke than I ever did when I was a smoker. So basically I have noticed the opposite of what you have noticed.

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27-03-2011, 12:08 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
Haven't noticed it - however if I smoke while waiting for a train at least 10 hobos show up asking for a cigarette.

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27-03-2011, 03:55 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
(27-03-2011 12:08 PM)gaglamesh731 Wrote:  Haven't noticed it - however if I smoke while waiting for a train at least 10 hobos show up asking for a cigarette.

They are looking to get something for free. That doesn't count as genuine friendliness.

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28-03-2011, 08:06 PM
RE: Are smokers the only social people in the streets?
Smoking is an excellent social prop. I often wish that I enjoyed smoking just for that purpose.

Drinking is the same way, to a lesser extent.

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