Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
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11-04-2012, 10:04 PM
Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
i would be interested to see if i can find fellow Aspies who are atheists. if you know someone who is, or know about the condition, please do post.
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11-04-2012, 10:26 PM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
It's been suggested by a doctor when I was diagnosed with serious ADHD that I have some traits. I never got a full diagnosis on it, back then my parents were in denial, so that was part of it. I don't think that if I am somewhat there that I am a full blown aspie, but I've taken several of those online tests (which supposedly are reputable) and on every single test I've taken I score the same, or within a few points of my buddy who is a full blown aspie. I suppose take that for what it's worth.

Either way... I don't think that atheism has a necessary affiliation to things such as aspergers, but I find on my interactions with aspies that more often than not they are far more on the intelligencia side and don't tend to buy into religion. My good friend who is a full blown aspie actually hates religion.
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11-04-2012, 10:34 PM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
(11-04-2012 10:26 PM)Logisch Wrote:  It's been suggested by a doctor when I was diagnosed with serious ADHD that I have some traits. I never got a full diagnosis on it, back then my parents were in denial, so that was part of it. I don't think that if I am somewhat there that I am a full blown aspie, but I've taken several of those online tests (which supposedly are reputable) and on every single test I've taken I score the same, or within a few points of my buddy who is a full blown aspie. I suppose take that for what it's worth.

Either way... I don't think that atheism has a necessary affiliation to things such as aspergers, but I find on my interactions with aspies that more often than not they are far more on the intelligencia side and don't tend to buy into religion. My good friend who is a full blown aspie actually hates religion.
he and are alike then. i do wonder, as an aspie, if my atheism stems from that. as a child i just read and read about the solar system. i coulds name evey planet and most moons at the age of 8. it was an obssesion. when i was told the stories of jesus and such at this age, i genuinly assumed it was fiction. i honestly thought these were just stories and that they were considered as such by the general populace. but i was wrong. when i realised this, i thought to myself, and worked for a long time to find what i believed. i see aspergers as an advantage, i think its an advantage but thats just me. i was much more intellectual than anyone else in my childhood years.
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11-04-2012, 10:45 PM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
I think it's fantastic that you see it as an advantage. My friend also sees it as an advantage. While I can only go off of a primitive self diagnosis, many of the traits describe me to a T. I try to think of things very logically and from a simple perspective. My family has always told me that it's odd that I seem to be the only one in the family that has been this way my entire life. I don't think my wife wants to admit that I might be, but I think more than anything she's afraid of the title and premise it comes with from society.

I agree though. In many ways, having the ability to look at things from a rational, logical, simple perspective; Break things down. To be able to do this far easier than most people is a very awesome thing indeed. My friend also has a few unique interests which are metal music and cars. It's actually how I met him.

I had just moved to our neighborhood, I was out working on one of my cars and he stopped and was talking my ear off about cars. At first, I just thought he was really talkative. But all he wanted to talk about was music and cars. Him and I sat there in the driveway, total strangers, talking about cars having the most complex and awesome conversations about engines and suspension that I had with ANY locals. An hour must have gone by and he finally said - "I'm sorry, I hope I'm not annoying you. I sometimes can't tell, I have aspergers."

After that I sorta took him under my wing and we started hanging out. He ended up moving out of his house because of the religious values imposed on him. We talk about such things quite a bit, it's a subject he seems to find very interesting. He actually follows wicca, though I think more for the values than anything. He doesn't like the way christianity imposed itself on him in the slightest.

He's one of the smartest guys I have interacted with locally. He's a genius with computers and super awesome with cars.
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12-04-2012, 12:14 AM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
i have never been diagnosed but there is a very very high chance i have aspergers. according to numerous sources, i have nearly every symptom, especially the childhood ones. online tests seem to agree as well, though i don't trust them that much. i've been to doctors in the past, been diagnosed with other things but they never pegged me as an aspie due to what i'm giong to guess is better social functions than what the general definition has. i did a lot of research on the subject and i feel part of the problem with doctors not recognizing this condition is due to the part where an aspie can take high intellect in a subject of interest. one of my subjects of interest has been people, they have always confused me and i've always wondered about them. i was also trained in technical support and this subject gives quite a deep understanding of people on some levels. it's this somewhat of a loophole that feel has been a big problem in doctors understanding what is wrong with me.

my confusion about people through most of my life has lead to what seems to be nearly a 6th sense in what people are thinking and feeling without many signals from them. i can now easily tell when a person is not enjoying my company and be well aware that they want me to stop talking. the catch is i ignore this information and continue talking anyway, i simply can't help it.

i had never even heard of this disorder until i saw a movie about a guy who had it. later, a guy i know and i were talking about the movie and pegged another guy we know as a likely candidate. we began to read up on it and quickly realized he did not have this problem, but in a moment of irony we both realized at the same time that it was me who was almost a perfect match to these symptoms.

i've never bothered to suggest to a doctor that this may be my problem. personally i do not trust them and i have no interest in taking those tests that feel as if they were designed to make me pull my hair out. i've always assumed that almost any doctor would quickly dismiss my 'loophole' idea and just waste my time. if i do not have aspergers, i have some form of high functioning autism that is extremely rare and might not even have a name. though i'm quite sure aspergers defines me very well.

one of the reasons i do not trust the shrinks is simple. they are just average people who did homework from what i can tell. one doctor from the past, who seemed to be trying to quickly peg anything on me that he could. tried to convince me that i believe the 'magic' in video games i play is real. i explained i was well aware that video games are not real (i wrote my first computer program at the age of 5, pretty sure i understand how these computers work by now). after i denied his claim repeatedly on the grounds that his idea was silly, he insisted this was my problem over and over until i finally just told him to fuck off.

the true irony in this situation is that here we have a man with a phd, who is licensed to give mind altering (sometimes dangerous) drugs to people at his discretion, who tells me i am delusional and believe video games are real, who believes in the man in the sky and all that crap in the bible and even goes to church. it was this moment when i realized that i simply do not trust the judgement of these people. yes i have delusions sometimes and i am well aware of them, it seems to me this man can not say the same. and now that i think about many of these 'delusions' of mine would more accurately be described as dreams.

as far as my life is concerned, i have no reason to attempt to be diagnosed with this condition and even if i were to attempt it i'm fairly sure the person sitting across from me won't listen to what i need to explain to them anyway.

simply understanding aspergers has already had great benefits for me in my life. the people i know best now understand what's wrong with me and i've been able to give them explicit details on how to handle me in the future. and in some cases it has paid off as well. (though one guy i know just can't seem to catch on and i continue to drive him crazy haha)

and yes i also see it as an advantage. from early childhood i have had the ability to learn anything very easily if i was interested. although i was a failure at school, many people declared me 'the smartest guy at school' i did not do homework or even bring books or paper to class in most cases (even math class lol) and i would still be able to test higher than most people with almost no effort. the ability to soak up things like this is just invaluable, i wouldn't trade it for anything except storybook love.

while i feel it is a gift, it is also a curse as well. my social awkwardness makes it very difficult for me to fit in with people and this causes me a lot of stress inside. even if people like me, i generally do not like them. i find one person out of a group and i'll befriend them for awhile but i can never be part of the group. long term it seems i am doomed to be lonely and i try to accept that but it's hard. the drive to think and express my thoughts pushes me to find people sometimes, which generally causes me more stress and i quickly go back into hermit mode.

and yes i can see how aspergers can lead to atheism, although putting it to words that i am comfortable with in a public setting could be difficult.

i've always wanted to chat with a female with aspergers as well. i've simply never met one before. in fact i think i just may research this now,to see if it's just a coincidence

thanks for giving me a reason to type

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12-04-2012, 05:19 AM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
I know this guy on Youtube who does various videos about atheism and belief and things like that. He has aspergers.

Check him out
http://www.youtube.com/user/anubis2814?feature=watch
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12-04-2012, 06:10 AM
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(12-04-2012 05:19 AM)Napoleon Wrote:  I know this guy on Youtube who does various videos about atheism and belief and things like that. He has aspergers.

Check him out
http://www.youtube.com/user/anubis2814?feature=watch


One of our best friends is an Aspy. He sees it as an advantage. He's a little weird, but we love him. He's pretty much only disadvantaged by the non-social thing ... and he hates crowds, and noise, (he's also "asexual"..I've talked about him on that thread). But he is brilliant, and driven, and his concentration on whatever he's working on, is phenomenal.

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12-04-2012, 09:01 AM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
(12-04-2012 06:10 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(12-04-2012 05:19 AM)Napoleon Wrote:  I know this guy on Youtube who does various videos about atheism and belief and things like that. He has aspergers.

Check him out
http://www.youtube.com/user/anubis2814?feature=watch


One of our best friends is an Aspy. He sees it as an advantage. He's a little weird, but we love him. He's pretty much only disadvantaged by the non-social thing ... and he hates crowds, and noise, (he's also "asexual"..I've talked about him on that thread). But he is brilliant, and driven, and his concentration on whatever he's working on, is phenomenal.
How strange, i too am asexual, i have no sexual preferences. i also have difficulty with socialising in general, though i couldnt really care less what other people think of me or my views. all they want to talk about is, to me, unbelievably boring.i have very little interest in telvision shows, and general popular culture is just uninteresting to me.

you see, my interest is physics, and despite currently failing my physics class, ive been told that my intenese knowledge of space physics is uncanny. i spent much time of my childhood reading, however during this time, i was largely agnostic, as one of the symptoms of AS is the tendency to take things very literally. and upon hearing the stories of jesus, i automatically assumed it was fiction. i genuinly though i and everyone else was hearing a story from fiction. years later, i studied the koran, torah and bible and realised there are people who believed these horrible stories as fact. in disgust, and through logic, i tested the story of creationism against the theory of the big bang by treating tham as theories. the big bang theories evidence, predictably, far excelled all evidence relating to creationism. through this, i was atheist. i do think my logical view, probably from AS, on the world defintly helped me find my non-theism, and im proud to say that i live purely by logical thought, and require no imaginary friend as security.
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12-04-2012, 09:23 AM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
(12-04-2012 06:10 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  One of our best friends is an Aspy. He sees it as an advantage. He's a little weird, but we love him. He's pretty much only disadvantaged by the non-social thing ... and he hates crowds, and noise, (he's also "asexual"..I've talked about him on that thread). But he is brilliant, and driven, and his concentration on whatever he's working on, is phenomenal.

Yes I don't view anyone who is like that to have a 'disability'. They are just different socially.
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12-04-2012, 10:27 AM
RE: Are there any atheists who have been diagnosed from aspergers syndrome or autism?
I am a self-diagnosed daft prick... does that count?
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