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19-10-2013, 03:19 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
i switch between the two at times. i'm an old-school atheist at home, but i switch to new-mode whenever i'm at school.
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19-10-2013, 03:36 PM
Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
(19-10-2013 01:38 PM)YarMatey Wrote:  Or are you just a disbeliever "Atheist", and nothing else.
Just curious to hear how strong your belief (Disbelief) are.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

No, I am not a follower of new atheism. New atheism seems more like anti-theism to me.
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19-10-2013, 03:55 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
Imma Gwynnite, and I love my Gwynnies! Heart

But, no. I'm not even sure what that is. Consider

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19-10-2013, 04:06 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
I am a 'new atheist' insofar as this illustration is concerned.

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19-10-2013, 05:42 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
(19-10-2013 04:06 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I am a 'new atheist' insofar as this illustration is concerned.

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I think the new atheism as Evolutionkills so eloquently put is that we don't need to be quiet. Religion should not be immune to criticism or even outright insults. Why should any religion get a free pass or even respect?

"I don't have to have faith, I have experience." Joseph Campbell
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19-10-2013, 05:57 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
I haven't been a believer in a very long time. As far as the 'New Atheist Movement', I don't like that religious views are coloring so many of our laws and the things that kids are taught in school. Just because a certain number of people believe in a certain thing doesn't make it so, therefore is should not be the basis for how everyone is supposed to live.

EvolutionKills' post is excellent. Just because you don't agree with or believe in something doesn't mean that your voice should not be heard. Staying quiet just allows more and more religious background to our laws and the unoffical rules.

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19-10-2013, 06:00 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
If it means calling people out on BS and their ignorance of the so called proof (BIBLE).
Then i guess as the pic above shows , I am a new Atheist,
But a movement only so much as I add to the % of the rise of Atheism among free thinkers.

We have 10s thousands of inspirations for Atheism (science journals./ verifiable observations/truth) and don't need a support group or fan club.

To me Atheism is a personal stance on taking control of ones intangibles (soul) then your morals are free from dogma, prejudice. Based on my observations its Better people that become Atheist as their subconscious can no longer rose colour the
hypocrisy of an unprovable faith.

Smart theists know this as evident by their active call to arms of anti atheist preaching. and instruct members to visit these type of forums
But the joke is on them, as if any inherently good theist gets into a debate with an Atheist they will finish up seeing all the anti-atheist preaching as bullshit and slander. and maybe there mind will be opened a little.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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19-10-2013, 06:02 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
The absence of belief, is not a belief in absence.
Dismissal of theist bull, is nothing more than dismissal.

Is it necessary to take a stand on whether there is a 1957 Chevy orbiting Pluto ?
If so, that would have a higher priority.

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Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music - Friedrich Nietzsche
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19-10-2013, 06:09 PM (This post was last modified: 19-10-2013 06:45 PM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
(19-10-2013 01:38 PM)YarMatey Wrote:  Or are you just a disbeliever "Atheist", and nothing else.
Just curious to hear how strong your belief (Disbelief) are.
Edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

I'm proud to be a so-called "new atheist"

But deriding religion as nonsense is not new. Consider...
-many of the ancient Greek philosophers,
-Celsus, (http://www.bluffton.edu/~humanities/1/celsus.htm )
the gnostics, who actually knew that God's were man-made,
Thomas Paine, http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/paine/thomas/p147a/)
Edward Gibbon, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25717/257...5717-h.htm
Annie Besant, (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/author...sant.html)
George Bethune, (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15968/15968-pdf.pdf )
MarkTwain, (http://www.examiner.com/article/revealed...istianity)
Joseph Wheless (http://www.harrington-sites.com/fa.htm)

...just to name a few.

Smart people throughout the centuries have always known religion was fabricated and immoral.

I'm excited by the current upsurge in atheism, and I think this time around society is going to wake up and listen, because there are powerful tools to counteract the brainwashing done by churches. We have various forms of mass media, particularly the Internet, to counter the isolation, and the indoctrination in schools and churches, which has always been how religions have run their businesses.

I've written a blog on the future of Christianity here…
http://www.markfulton.org/the-future-of-christianity

PS...I "borrowed" EK's cartoon....thanks mate!
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19-10-2013, 06:16 PM
RE: Are you a follower of the "New Atheism" movement
(19-10-2013 05:42 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  
(19-10-2013 04:06 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I am a 'new atheist' insofar as this illustration is concerned.

[Image: old-atheists-vs-new-atheists-600x334.jpeg]
I think the new atheism as Evolutionkills so eloquently put is that we don't need to be quiet. Religion should not be immune to criticism or even outright insults. Why should any religion get a free pass or even respect?
Hah replying to my own post! Thats fun. I think I should clarify. I can respect the person but not the religion he practices. Actually let me clarify further, I can respect the metaphorical version of religion but not the literal form. I Have been trying to talk to excubitor see what his deal is all about. Although at times he can come along as rather harsh which really doesn't help either side, he is a man of conviction who genuinely wants to save our souls, a noble cause if a bit silly. He has (at least for now) my respect. He still won't tell me why he's not spreading the word of his true god to muslim forums though. They need some soul saving too.

"I don't have to have faith, I have experience." Joseph Campbell
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