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31-03-2014, 01:18 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:02 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 12:03 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Ok I did read it and it became obvious that you don't know what is being discussed thus rendering your opinion irrelevant to the actual conversation. What you are talking about is not what is being discussed and had you read the thread you would know this.
Then you missed my point and that was probably my fault, but thanks for reading it. In my hurry to post in brief time, my post probably came off with too much emphasis on the porn. But that wasn't what I was mainly talking about. I was talking about anything "adult" that has to be closed to those under 18 years of age. (And porn was being discussed by some people anyway - I did skim a lot of the thread while not reading it in its entirety.)

I'm aware of the Sexy Banter thread and that's what this is really about, but I don't see why we need that here. If you reread what I said about the controversial subjects (and note I did include "adult discussions" which doesn't have to mean X-rated) the point I was making still stands in my mind.

I see Seth has set forth his guidelines now so I guess this is irrelevant at this point. But I'm guessing he would rather have never been asked in the first place. He probably compromised as opposed to out-rightly saying "no" because he tries to be as accommodating as possible. That's to his credit. But I still say, since it's questionable in the first place, why do we really need any of this here? Why take any chance on tainting a very important subject when the risk has nothing to do with atheism. That was my point.

I don't know you and I don't know anything about your life, or your past, or your experience with religion. I have shared some about my own here but I will out it here for you or anyone else who is interested in knowing why I disagree with you. When I was kid sex was a swear word just like bitch or shit or any other. I didn't know what it meant, I just knew it was bad. As I got older I learned more about it, because I attended a public school. I remember specifically my mother saying that sex was dirty and evil. I think what she meant was, you know, outside if marriage or whatever, but what I heard as a kid was that all sex was dirty and evil.
When I was 16 I was in "love" with a man I met on a trip to a Different church with a friend. When I was 17 (and he was 25) he said he loved me and we were going to be together forever and I had sex with him. To my horror shortly after I came home to him at my house in my kitchen with my parents discussing the horrible sin that I had committed with him, and my parents spent hours lecturing me and praying with me and telling me that I needed to marry this man. So I did. Then Until I was 22 I live a pretty terrifying tale of abuse and shame with a men who told me that god did not create women to have sexual feelings. So now I am single and trying to learn how to be a normal human being with normal feelings towards sex and if I can't talk about it here among atheists, in a safe place where I won't be judged by religious standards, then I don't have anyone to talk to about it. I don't have anyone to go to except you guys or strangers. So that's why I think it's relevant.

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31-03-2014, 01:20 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
*reminder*

Some people are interested in the topic even though they aren't involved in the Sexy Banter thread. That may or may not be because they are uncomfortable joining in on the sexy banter because it's not in an 18+ section.

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31-03-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:02 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I'm aware of the Sexy Banter thread and that's what this is really about, but I don't see why we need that here.

Mostly we need the sexy banter thread for three reasons:

(1) Adults WILL clown around and innuendos will happen. That's just a normal part of internet forum life. People will always talk sex - no matter the prime mission of ANY webpage. Always.
(2) To keep sexy chatter from spilling into all other threads. Some random breakouts are still normal - BUT - having a specific place for that helps keep other threads on topic.
(3) We want one.Thumbsup A safe space where we can chat as adults uninhibited by kids or those who've strive to make a sterile environment. Many here have grown into friends and we'd like to say what we want unencumbered by people who'd curtail us as adults. I'm all grown up now. I do not wish to be censored. Sure I don't mind if there's a specific spot where I can let my hair down but I DO want that place. Makes for longer friendships, bonds, and a feeling of security where I am free to be safely my sexy self IF/When I want that.

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31-03-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:20 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  *reminder*

Some people are interested in the topic even though they aren't involved in the Sexy Banter thread. That may or may not be because they are uncomfortable joining in on the sexy banter because it's not in an 18+ section.

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31-03-2014, 01:24 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:15 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:10 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  Or you could stay out of conversations when you have no dog in the fight... That's what confused this thread so damn much. People with no interest in discussing adult topics getting all pissy about people that DO want to discuss such topics.

If you look at the posts of the people who actually post in the SBT, the majority of us came to a basic consensus that "no porn" was perfectly fine. You know, those of us who care about the thread and would like to see it continue, although in a more responsible manner. Then people with no interest in posting in such a place decided to come here and muck up the conversation. Seriously, if you have no interest, you have no say. It's Seth's forum and he has final word no matter what anyone else thinks. If this thread had been us asking for our own section and those that didn't care stayed the hell out of it, this would have been resolved 30 pages ago.

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Well, I can see where general forum members might want to have input on whether or not the forum (at large) has a sexy, on-going thread. I can see that.
BUT
As you say - in all reality if it's not a thread someone wants to participate in then they *could* just skip it as they've probably already been doing.

as soon as our sexy banter can be private- members-only-club for regulars (aka NOT newbies and NOT trolls and NOT people who've not proven they're not here Just for sake of sexy banter)........ we can get on with it. Those uninterested who won't BE members of the sexy club shouldn't even have it ROLL out on their list of topics.

Members only is the only way to keep everyone happy and keep the general topic list under 18, squeaky clean and no issues.




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Perhaps I was a bit too blunt. My inner Muffsy came out.

I am talking about those that came in here and contributed nothing more than "I think that's icky and don't like it so NO". Like I said, it was always assumed that Seth would have final say on it. There was absofuckinglutely no reason to come in here and tell us that we can't have our section because they don't agree with the topic being discussed. What this should have been was a conversation between the mods/Seth about whether we can have the section and what is permitted there.

Instead, we got page after page of people that I have never seen in that thread (or post very very infrequently) telling us to go somewhere else. Like I said, if you have no dog in the fight, stay the hell out of the arena.

Oh, and we already have an ongoing long time thread about sex. The entire point was to contain said thread.

Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up.

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31-03-2014, 01:25 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:24 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:15 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Well, I can see where general forum members might want to have input on whether or not the forum (at large) has a sexy, on-going thread. I can see that.
BUT
As you say - in all reality if it's not a thread someone wants to participate in then they *could* just skip it as they've probably already been doing.

as soon as our sexy banter can be private- members-only-club for regulars (aka NOT newbies and NOT trolls and NOT people who've not proven they're not here Just for sake of sexy banter)........ we can get on with it. Those uninterested who won't BE members of the sexy club shouldn't even have it ROLL out on their list of topics.

Members only is the only way to keep everyone happy and keep the general topic list under 18, squeaky clean and no issues.




Angel

Perhaps I was a bit too blunt. My inner Muffsy came out.

I am talking about those that came in here and contributed nothing more than "I think that's icky and don't like it so NO". Like I said, it was always assumed that Seth would have final say on it. There was absofuckinglutely no reason to come in here and tell us that we can't have our section because they don't agree with the topic being discussed. What this should have been was a conversation between the mods/Seth about whether we can have the section and what is permitted there.

Instead, we got page after page of people that I have never seen in that thread (or post very very infrequently) telling us to go somewhere else. Like I said, if you have no dog in the fight, stay the hell out of the arena.



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31-03-2014, 01:32 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:18 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:02 PM)Impulse Wrote:  Then you missed my point and that was probably my fault, but thanks for reading it. In my hurry to post in brief time, my post probably came off with too much emphasis on the porn. But that wasn't what I was mainly talking about. I was talking about anything "adult" that has to be closed to those under 18 years of age. (And porn was being discussed by some people anyway - I did skim a lot of the thread while not reading it in its entirety.)

I'm aware of the Sexy Banter thread and that's what this is really about, but I don't see why we need that here. If you reread what I said about the controversial subjects (and note I did include "adult discussions" which doesn't have to mean X-rated) the point I was making still stands in my mind.

I see Seth has set forth his guidelines now so I guess this is irrelevant at this point. But I'm guessing he would rather have never been asked in the first place. He probably compromised as opposed to out-rightly saying "no" because he tries to be as accommodating as possible. That's to his credit. But I still say, since it's questionable in the first place, why do we really need any of this here? Why take any chance on tainting a very important subject when the risk has nothing to do with atheism. That was my point.

I don't know you and I don't know anything about your life, or your past, or your experience with religion. I have shared some about my own here but I will out it here for you or anyone else who is interested in knowing why I disagree with you. When I was kid sex was a swear word just like bitch or shit or any other. I didn't know what it meant, I just knew it was bad. As I got older I learned more about it, because I attended a public school. I remember specifically my mother saying that sex was dirty and evil. I think what she meant was, you know, outside if marriage or whatever, but what I heard as a kid was that all sex was dirty and evil.
When I was 16 I was in "love" with a man I met on a trip to a Different church with a friend. When I was 17 (and he was 25) he said he loved me and we were going to be together forever and I had sex with him. To my horror shortly after I came home to him at my house in my kitchen with my parents discussing the horrible sin that I had committed with him, and my parents spent hours lecturing me and praying with me and telling me that I needed to marry this man. So I did. Then Until I was 22 I live a pretty terrifying tale of abuse and shame with a men who told me that god did not create women to have sexual feelings. So now I am single and trying to learn how to be a normal human being with normal feelings towards sex and if I can't talk about it here among atheists, in a safe place where I won't be judged by religious standards, then I don't have anyone to talk to about it. I don't have anyone to go to except you guys or strangers. So that's why I think it's relevant.

THIS.

Aside from our silliness and talk of perverse pleasures, I have been a part of more than a few conversations that were helpful to people that were curious about something or had a sexual issue they needed advice on.

There is serious conversation that happens there, even when it is colored by innuendo or flat out raunchiness. I can think of no group of people on the internet that I would rather discuss said things with than a group that I already know I like (for the most part). These are people that I've had discussions about physics with. People I've had heartfelt discussions about what religion has done to us. People who share a similar worldview. Yeah, there are other places on the internet for this type of discussion, but why should I go make a whole new group of friends to discuss one particular aspect of my life with when I already have a great group of friends that I would prefer to get advice from?

Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up.

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31-03-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:10 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:02 PM)Impulse Wrote:  Then you missed my point and that was probably my fault, but thanks for reading it. In my hurry to post in brief time, my post probably came off with too much emphasis on the porn. But that wasn't what I was mainly talking about. I was talking about anything "adult" that has to be closed to those under 18 years of age. (And porn was being discussed by some people anyway - I did skim a lot of the thread while not reading it in its entirety.)

I'm aware of the Sexy Banter thread and that's what this is really about, but I don't see why we need that here. If you reread what I said about the controversial subjects (and note I did include "adult discussions" which doesn't have to mean X-rated) the point I was making still stands in my mind.

I see Seth has set forth his guidelines now so I guess this is irrelevant at this point. But I'm guessing he would rather have never been asked in the first place. He probably compromised as opposed to out-rightly saying "no" because he tries to be as accommodating as possible. That's to his credit. But I still say, since it's questionable in the first place, why do we really need any of this here? Why take any chance on tainting a very important subject when the risk has nothing to do with atheism. That was my point.

Or you could stay out of conversations when you have no dog in the fight... That's what confused this thread so damn much. People with no interest in discussing adult topics getting all pissy about people that DO want to discuss such topics.

If you look at the posts of the people who actually post in the SBT, the majority of us came to a basic consensus that "no porn" was perfectly fine. You know, those of us who care about the thread and would like to see it continue, although in a more responsible manner. Then people with no interest in posting in such a place decided to come here and muck up the conversation. Seriously, if you have no interest, you have no say. It's Seth's forum and he has final word no matter what anyone else thinks. If this thread had been us asking for our own section and those that didn't care stayed the hell out of it, this would have been resolved 30 pages ago.

Dodgy
No dog in this fight? If you understood my point AT ALL, it wasn't about porn or adult discussions, but about the importance of this website, forum, and most especially atheism itself and Seth too. I don't know how I can say it more clearly. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether I'm interested in participating in the thread or even my personal feelings about it. It has to do with the image of atheism and of all that Seth has done.

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31-03-2014, 01:41 PM
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"The image of atheism"


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31-03-2014, 01:44 PM
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Theres more to life than just atheism, yes ? Yes

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