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31-03-2014, 01:45 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:41 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  "The image of atheism"


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31-03-2014, 01:46 PM (This post was last modified: 31-03-2014 01:49 PM by itsnotmeitsyou.)
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:37 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:10 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  Or you could stay out of conversations when you have no dog in the fight... That's what confused this thread so damn much. People with no interest in discussing adult topics getting all pissy about people that DO want to discuss such topics.

If you look at the posts of the people who actually post in the SBT, the majority of us came to a basic consensus that "no porn" was perfectly fine. You know, those of us who care about the thread and would like to see it continue, although in a more responsible manner. Then people with no interest in posting in such a place decided to come here and muck up the conversation. Seriously, if you have no interest, you have no say. It's Seth's forum and he has final word no matter what anyone else thinks. If this thread had been us asking for our own section and those that didn't care stayed the hell out of it, this would have been resolved 30 pages ago.

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No dog in this fight? If you understood my point AT ALL, it wasn't about porn or adult discussions, but about the importance of this website, forum, and most especially atheism itself and Seth too. I don't know how I can say it more clearly. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether I'm interested in participating in the thread or even my personal feelings about it. It has to do with the image of atheism and of all that Seth has done.

Which is PRECISELY the reason why this should have been a discussion that included:

1. Interested parties. - Those of us who want the subforum
2. Mods/Admins. - Those who will have to create/administer said subforum
3. Seth - The owner and creator of this wonderful place we gather.

THAT'S FUCKING IT. Uninterested parties have no reason to join this conversation. The order of importance of opinions goes from bottom to top of that list. Uninterested parties don't even come into consideration. Seth is not going to allow something he doesn't want to compromise his brand. Your .02 is meaningless. My .02 is next to meaningless because I have no real power here, only an interest. The Mods/Admins and Seth are the ONLY people who's opinions have any real sway here.

Whether or not YOU think it's a good idea is simply adding in your own opinion where it is not needed. I don't have kids and have no interest in having kids, but I don't tell people that they will ruin their lives by having kids. It's their fucking life and they will manage it the way they choose. Same goes for Seth and this forum.

Excuse me, I'm making perfect sense. You're just not keeping up.

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31-03-2014, 01:47 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:37 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:10 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  Or you could stay out of conversations when you have no dog in the fight... That's what confused this thread so damn much. People with no interest in discussing adult topics getting all pissy about people that DO want to discuss such topics.

If you look at the posts of the people who actually post in the SBT, the majority of us came to a basic consensus that "no porn" was perfectly fine. You know, those of us who care about the thread and would like to see it continue, although in a more responsible manner. Then people with no interest in posting in such a place decided to come here and muck up the conversation. Seriously, if you have no interest, you have no say. It's Seth's forum and he has final word no matter what anyone else thinks. If this thread had been us asking for our own section and those that didn't care stayed the hell out of it, this would have been resolved 30 pages ago.

Dodgy
No dog in this fight? If you understood my point AT ALL, it wasn't about porn or adult discussions, but about the importance of this website, forum, and most especially atheism itself and Seth too. I don't know how I can say it more clearly. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether I'm interested in participating in the thread or even my personal feelings about it. It has to do with the image of atheism and of all that Seth has done.

Atheists are people who don't believe in/follow a god.

But they are people. With various interests and concerns. That is why there are sections here on food, science, movies, theism, history, books, personal issues, etc. Atheists, eat, read, watch movies, study science, history, live lives, etc. and they have sex. If this site was only about atheism it would have few threads and even fewer members.

The way that some people like to state 'Seth this and Seth that' is no different from the theists that claim they know their god's mind.

Members here that contribute in many ways to the forum asked for a place that is off limits to those under 18. Let me rephrase, they requested a change in things in an effort to be more responsible considering the number of members that are under the age of 18.

No one will be forced to go there. I am sure even the mods could opt out if they were uncomfortable.

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31-03-2014, 01:56 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:46 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:37 PM)Impulse Wrote:  No dog in this fight? If you understood my point AT ALL, it wasn't about porn or adult discussions, but about the importance of this website, forum, and most especially atheism itself and Seth too. I don't know how I can say it more clearly. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether I'm interested in participating in the thread or even my personal feelings about it. It has to do with the image of atheism and of all that Seth has done.

Which is PRECISELY the reason why this should have been a discussion that included:

1. Interested parties. - Those of us who want the subforum
2. Mods/Admins. - Those who will have to create/administer said subforum
3. Seth - The owner and creator of this wonderful place we gather.

THAT'S FUCKING IT. Uninterested parties have no reason to join this conversation. The order of importance of opinions goes from bottom to top of that list. Uninterested parties don't even come into consideration. Seth is not going to allow something he doesn't want to compromise his brand. Your .02 is meaningless. My .02 is next to meaningless because I have no real power here, only an interest. The Mods/Admins and Seth are the ONLY people who's opinions have any real sway here.

Whether or not YOU think it's a good idea is simply adding in your own opinion where it is not needed. I don't have kids and have no interest in having kids, but I don't tell people that they will ruin their lives by having kids. It's their fucking life and they will manage it the way they choose. Same goes for Seth and this forum.

Please don't turn this into a fight here. Please, just for me, just let it go. Please.

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31-03-2014, 01:59 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:56 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(31-03-2014 01:46 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  Which is PRECISELY the reason why this should have been a discussion that included:

1. Interested parties. - Those of us who want the subforum
2. Mods/Admins. - Those who will have to create/administer said subforum
3. Seth - The owner and creator of this wonderful place we gather.

THAT'S FUCKING IT. Uninterested parties have no reason to join this conversation. The order of importance of opinions goes from bottom to top of that list. Uninterested parties don't even come into consideration. Seth is not going to allow something he doesn't want to compromise his brand. Your .02 is meaningless. My .02 is next to meaningless because I have no real power here, only an interest. The Mods/Admins and Seth are the ONLY people who's opinions have any real sway here.

Whether or not YOU think it's a good idea is simply adding in your own opinion where it is not needed. I don't have kids and have no interest in having kids, but I don't tell people that they will ruin their lives by having kids. It's their fucking life and they will manage it the way they choose. Same goes for Seth and this forum.

Please don't turn this into a fight here. Please, just for me, just let it go. Please.

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31-03-2014, 02:00 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
(31-03-2014 01:44 PM)War Horse Wrote:  Theres more to life than just atheism, yes ? Yes

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31-03-2014, 02:01 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
You got it Losty. I'm out. Cool Heart

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31-03-2014, 02:17 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
I'm bowing out of this thread. I made my points and I think I was clear, but some replies coming back seem to be addressing other things that aren't what I was saying and I have no interest or time to keep going in circles.

Just a few brief things and then I'm gone from here:

LostAndInsecure,
I do see the point you made and perhaps there is a limited appropriate use for such a thread although I'm still not convinced that this is the appropriate place or the only place for it. But you gave me something to think about. Thanks.

itsnotmeitsyou,
I'm not sure how you're missing that the subject is both about the specific thread AND this website/forum as a whole, but that's what you are missing and why the subject is everybody's business who comes to these forums. If that wasn't true, there wouldn't have been any need to ask Seth about it.

Anjele,
I recognize what you are saying and I agreed with that very point about other interests in my original post in this thread (back on page 35, post #343), but there is a difference between many other subjects and subjects that specifically may attract negativity toward atheism itself. We get enough of that just from being atheists. Some subjects don't need to be among "other subjects" here in my opinion.

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Finally, Seth has given his feedback on the matter so nothing I say at this point makes a whole lot of difference anyway. But my point was larger than this thread. I have confronted a few people in other threads about things that I think have the potential to make atheists look bad. I'm seeing this topic as being along the same lines. You can agree or disagree obviously. But I believe sometimes some atheists hurt atheism in general and when I believe things are going in that direction, I will speak out.

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31-03-2014, 02:28 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
So, being sexual creatures would be a negative for atheists? How very Catholic a concept. If that's all people can hold against us I have to say the case is awfully weak.

I'm out too.

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31-03-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: Area69 for Adults(and Gwyneth lovers) only
Well I just got here so I'm in, what the fuck just happened to make this thread spike 13 pages?
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