Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
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01-10-2015, 12:45 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:36 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Wait, I think you're serious that a guy named Yeshua existing between 0-35 CE somehow corroborates the bible as being plausible. In that case Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load


Ready to pitch that lie again that you're here just to learn and not to preach your christian bullshit?

So that's what secular historian like Bart Ehram suggest huh? That there was just some dude, named Yeshua, living at that time, but nothing can be said about him other than that?

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01-10-2015, 12:46 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:45 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:36 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Laugh out load

Wait, I think you're serious that a guy named Yeshua existing between 0-35 CE somehow corroborates the bible as being plausible. In that case Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load Laugh out load


Ready to pitch that lie again that you're here just to learn and not to preach your christian bullshit?

So that's what secular historian like Bart Ehram suggest huh? That there was just some dude, named Yeshua, living at that time, but nothing can be said about him other than that?

What is the alternative? He was a god? Laugh out load That is fucking rich.

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01-10-2015, 12:51 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:46 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:45 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  So that's what secular historian like Bart Ehram suggest huh? That there was just some dude, named Yeshua, living at that time, but nothing can be said about him other than that?

What is the alternative? He was a god? Laugh out load That is fucking rich.

No, a man, who was an apocalyptic preacher, who many of his followers believed was God, and the jewish Messiah, and perhaps he himself did to, who went around preaching about his message of the Kingdom of God, until he got strung up by the Romans.

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

"In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
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01-10-2015, 12:52 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:51 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:46 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  What is the alternative? He was a god? Laugh out load That is fucking rich.

No, a man who many of his followers believed was God, and the jewish Messiah, and got strung up by the Romans.

Yeah, we have a lot of cults today too. Who gives a shit? Jim Jones would be proud of you, but he is busy making some more kool-aid up in "heaven" Laugh out load

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01-10-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:51 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:46 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  What is the alternative? He was a god? Laugh out load That is fucking rich.

No, a man, apocalyptic preacher, who many of his followers believed was God, and the jewish Messiah, and perhaps he himself did to, and got strung up by the Romans, who went around prior to his death preaching about his message of the Kingdom of God.

Still ready to peddle that lie that you are on an atheist site to "learn" and not here to preach your bullshit?

Dishonest fucking theists are a dime a dozen Drinking Beverage

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01-10-2015, 12:55 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:54 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:51 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  No, a man, apocalyptic preacher, who many of his followers believed was God, and the jewish Messiah, and perhaps he himself did to, and got strung up by the Romans, who went around prior to his death preaching about his message of the Kingdom of God.

Still ready to peddle that lie that you are on an atheist site to "learn" and not here to preach your bullshit?

Dishonest fucking theists are a dime a dozen Drinking Beverage

Yea, that's what folks like Ehrman are, dishonest theists, when they present that picture.

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

"In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
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01-10-2015, 12:57 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:55 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:54 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Still ready to peddle that lie that you are on an atheist site to "learn" and not here to preach your bullshit?

Dishonest fucking theists are a dime a dozen Drinking Beverage

Yea, that's what folks like Ehrman are, dishonest theists, when they present that picture.

Oh look, a dishonest reply by intentionally ignoring the actual question and point of the post. What a fucking surprise from you Dodgy

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01-10-2015, 01:00 PM
Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 12:52 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:51 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  No, a man who many of his followers believed was God, and the jewish Messiah, and got strung up by the Romans.

Yeah, we have a lot of cults today too. Who gives a shit? Jim Jones would be proud of you, but he is busy making some more kool-aid up in "heaven" Laugh out load

Well, we're not particularly arguing that Jim Jones didn't exists are we?

So yea, Jesus, an early cult leader, who convinced his flock that he was the messiah, and perhaps God, is fine as well. An early Jim Jones.

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

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01-10-2015, 01:07 PM
RE: Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
Ah yes, we haven't had one of these going on since 2-3 weeks ago, time to rekindle that.

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01-10-2015, 01:07 PM
Argument from Ignorance vs. Argument from Silence
(01-10-2015 01:00 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-10-2015 12:52 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Yeah, we have a lot of cults today too. Who gives a shit? Jim Jones would be proud of you, but he is busy making some more kool-aid up in "heaven" Laugh out load

Well, we're not particularly arguing that Jim Jones didn't exists are we?

So yea, Jesus, an early cult leader, who convinced his flock that he was the messiah, and perhaps God, is fine as well. An early Jim Jones.

A plausible early cult leader that doesn't corroborate any claims of the validity of the bible or New Testament in any way.

Even if the NT authors based their character on a cult leader, their fiction doesn't become fact.

Still going to peddle that lie that you're on an atheist site to "learn" and not preach your bullshit?

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