Argument from personal revelation
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01-09-2017, 07:20 AM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(31-08-2017 10:32 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:27 AM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  There is evidence that the dog actually exists which is a might bit further than you can get.

A dog is just a belief. Everything is just a belief. Beliefs create reality.

Are you 100% sure?
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01-09-2017, 07:56 AM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(31-08-2017 10:32 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  A dog is just a belief. Everything is just a belief. Beliefs create reality.

This is what happens when a Philosophy 101 student stops going to class halfway through the semester.
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01-09-2017, 08:07 AM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(01-09-2017 07:56 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:32 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  A dog is just a belief. Everything is just a belief. Beliefs create reality.

This is what happens when a Philosophy 101 student stops going to class halfway through the semester.
Its this sort of shit that really gets my goat.

At first it's all, "I'm right you're wrong" shit, and then your provide the evidence and the explanations they say don't exist. Then it becomes "well I just know etc", to which it normally boils down to us saying "Look, show me the evidence and I'll convert right now".

Then because they don't have any, it just becomes metaphysical shite like "but what is life/how to define what is real/If there is no god then there is a god because one must exist because.....etc", it's just mind numbing. Plus we've already passed the "Shut up you [explective]" stage which comes just before it.

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(18-09-2017 09:47 AM)vahaaao Wrote:  Irresponsible bachelor daddy
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01-09-2017, 08:11 AM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
Yeah they think this "revelation" malarkey is unassailable. It's simply a personal belief - they interpreted something utterly arbitrary as a "sign" of some sort then just made shit up. It's like when my 6-year-old dreams up anything from grizzly bears to ninjas as reasons not to go to bed; it's fucking make-believe. In no other field of human endeavor is "revelation" an acceptable step to confirming a hypothesis.
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03-09-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(31-08-2017 10:32 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  A dog is just a belief. Everything is just a belief. Beliefs create reality.

I believe I am a millionaire. Therefore I am a millionaire. Belief creates reality. But my bank does nor think I am a millionaire. What is my bank not understanding about reality?

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03-09-2017, 12:54 PM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(01-09-2017 07:56 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:32 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  A dog is just a belief. Everything is just a belief. Beliefs create reality.

This is what happens when a Philosophy 101 student stops going to class halfway through the semester.


I think you give him too much credit. The only desk he's ever sat at was one in his mama's kitchen.

“Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.”

― Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle
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03-09-2017, 01:11 PM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(03-09-2017 12:54 PM)whateverist Wrote:  
(01-09-2017 07:56 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  This is what happens when a Philosophy 101 student stops going to class halfway through the semester.


I think you give him too much credit. The only desk he's ever sat at was one in his mama's kitchen.

Yeah, I'm catching pretentious troll vibes rather than pretentious philosophy student. Of course pretentious fuckwit covers them both Drinking Beverage

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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03-09-2017, 01:14 PM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
At best the argument from personal revelation can only be convincing to the person who supposedly had the revelation, not to someone who has not had a "revelation". It's not very useful at all.

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03-09-2017, 04:04 PM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
If you want to know if my dog is real or not, then come over and try to hit me or my wife; my dog will rip your throat out.
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03-09-2017, 05:46 PM
RE: Argument from personal revelation
(03-09-2017 04:04 PM)ResidentEvilFan Wrote:  If you want to know if my dog is real or not, then come over and try to hit me or my wife; my dog will rip your throat out.

But what if the assailant believes he won't be injured? I mean, believe really, really hard. And visualizes his safety. Or if he has a vision board. Oh, oh, oh, and it manifests for him??

I mean, that's reality, right? That's how it works, right?
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