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26-05-2014, 01:15 AM
RE: Arizona Inmates on Bread & Water for defacing flag
If you are in prison you probably have more reason than most to be angry at your country.

Most of these people are trying hard not to rip someones throat out with their bare teeth. Let them piss on the flag if it makes them feel better.
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26-05-2014, 04:02 AM
RE: Arizona Inmates on Bread & Water for defacing flag
(25-05-2014 08:08 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(25-05-2014 08:07 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Well overall they tend to do things in a better way, but rehabilitation does work far better than punitive measures at reducing recidivism. It is less burden on the public and is better for those who do fall on the bad side of the law. Fixing the root problem would be way more than just how prisons are set up but it is a step.

Now that I think about it why doesn't the U.S give this a try?

Several reasons.

1) They have a disconnection from reality opinion that everyone was brought up in a middle income household.
2) For-profit prisons. It's bad for business if there's no criminals to detain.
3) There's a culture of "eye for an eye" and petty revenge.
4) It's 'Murica, they believe they lead the world in everything and the way they go about preventing crime is the best possible way of doing it when in reality all they lead in is military spending and being fat.
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26-05-2014, 04:12 AM
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(25-05-2014 03:52 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(22-05-2014 07:12 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  I think it's abundantly clear that America has absolutely zero interest in rehabilitation, it's all about punishment, punishment, punishment, an outdated strain of thought on law and order

(25-05-2014 02:53 PM)morondog Wrote:  I think it's bullshit. I think prison is bullshit too. I don't have an alternative to offer but it's still crap. We're intelligent apes. We should be able to figure out something better than caging people and maltreating them.


Maybe the first question is to ask what the purpose of a prison is.


The Norwegian prison where inmates are treated like people

Quote:On Bastoy prison island in Norway, the prisoners, some of whom are murderers and rapists, live in conditions that critics brand 'cushy' and 'luxurious'. Yet it has by far the lowest reoffending rate in Europe

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Fill US prisons with Scandinavians, and you will have easily rehabilitated criminals. OTOH, fill Scandinavian prisons with American prisoners, and they will break the fuck out, and dominate pretty much every man, woman, and child, in Scandinavia.

Scandinavians are more tame and docile than Americans; IOW, Scandinavians are easily controlled wimps. That's why rehabilitation there "works".
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26-05-2014, 04:15 AM
RE: Arizona Inmates on Bread & Water for defacing flag
(26-05-2014 04:12 AM)Juv Wrote:  
(25-05-2014 03:52 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Maybe the first question is to ask what the purpose of a prison is.


The Norwegian prison where inmates are treated like people


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Fill US prisons with Scandinavians, and you will have easily rehabilitated criminals. OTOH, fill Scandinavian prisons with American prisoners, and they will break the fuck out, and dominate pretty much every man, woman, and child, in Scandinavia.

Scandinavians are more tame and docile than Americans; IOW, Scandinavians are easily controlled wimps. That's why rehabilitation there "works".

You're a retard.
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26-05-2014, 04:16 AM
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(26-05-2014 04:15 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(26-05-2014 04:12 AM)Juv Wrote:  Fill US prisons with Scandinavians, and you will have easily rehabilitated criminals. OTOH, fill Scandinavian prisons with American prisoners, and they will break the fuck out, and dominate pretty much every man, woman, and child, in Scandinavia.

Scandinavians are more tame and docile than Americans; IOW, Scandinavians are easily controlled wimps. That's why rehabilitation there "works".

You're a retard.
Elaborate.
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26-05-2014, 04:24 AM
RE: Arizona Inmates on Bread & Water for defacing flag
(26-05-2014 04:16 AM)Juv Wrote:  
(26-05-2014 04:15 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  You're a retard.
Elaborate.

You're mistaking "docile" for "happy".
And "easily controlled wimps" for "doesn't live in a fucked up country, so can live contently in a sensible country".
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26-05-2014, 04:24 AM
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(26-05-2014 04:12 AM)Juv Wrote:  Fill US prisons with Scandinavians, and you will have easily rehabilitated criminals. OTOH, fill Scandinavian prisons with American prisoners, and they will break the fuck out, and dominate pretty much every man, woman, and child, in Scandinavia.

Scandinavians are more tame and docile than Americans; IOW, Scandinavians are easily controlled wimps. That's why rehabilitation there "works".

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26-05-2014, 04:26 AM
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(26-05-2014 04:12 AM)Juv Wrote:  Fill US prisons with Scandinavians, and you will have easily rehabilitated criminals. OTOH, fill Scandinavian prisons with American prisoners, and they will break the fuck out, and dominate pretty much every man, woman, and child, in Scandinavia.

Scandinavians are more tame and docile than Americans; IOW, Scandinavians are easily controlled wimps. That's why rehabilitation there "works".

Citation needed Drinking Beverage

Seems like pure bollocks to me.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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26-05-2014, 04:37 AM
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(26-05-2014 04:24 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(26-05-2014 04:16 AM)Juv Wrote:  Elaborate.

You're mistaking "docile" for "happy".
And "easily controlled wimps" for "doesn't live in a fucked up country, so can live contently in a sensible country".

Strawman response, but Scandinavians have a high suicide rate, and high depression relative to their perfect utopia lifestyle.

And they aren't reproducing their wonderful selves. Check it out.
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26-05-2014, 04:41 AM
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(26-05-2014 04:26 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(26-05-2014 04:12 AM)Juv Wrote:  Fill US prisons with Scandinavians, and you will have easily rehabilitated criminals. OTOH, fill Scandinavian prisons with American prisoners, and they will break the fuck out, and dominate pretty much every man, woman, and child, in Scandinavia.

Scandinavians are more tame and docile than Americans; IOW, Scandinavians are easily controlled wimps. That's why rehabilitation there "works".

Citation needed Drinking Beverage

Seems like pure bollocks to me.

Look it up. The good behavior, and high conscientiousness of the Scandinavians has been well documented.
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