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06-10-2015, 10:34 AM
RE: Arrogance
(05-10-2015 11:45 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Missionary Motto:

"Sorry about all the mess my you made by sinning. We're here help to you make amends"

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The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination."
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08-10-2015, 08:04 AM
RE: Arrogance
(05-10-2015 03:02 PM)Loom Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 01:49 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  1. The kids in Africa are constantly, constantly, constantly being helped by in-country Christian missionaries and Christian missions. I support a family in Africa now with enough dollars that their child can go to school instead of work in the fields, and have been doing so for years. You?

2. We know that God causes all things to work together to those who love God. Your family rejoiced that despite a foolish mistake, a mistimed watch, they got to enjoy an activity centered on God and joy.

I appreciate that you've given so heartedly to charity (which many non-Christians do as well). I'm hardly financially stable enough to support myself, but I give to charities whenever I can.

...and I think the point I was trying to make went clear over your head. Saying a god is rewarding you when something good happens, all because you have a personal relationship with said god, is exactly the kind of arrogance I was talking about.

Not at all. I got it the first time. What you call arrogance, I call gratitude. What you call arrogance, I call humility. When you call arrogance, I call "judge not".

I'm told atheists on forums like TTA are bitter and angry. If you are not, your posts to me will be respectful, insightful and thoughtful. Prove me wrong by your adherence to decent behavior.
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08-10-2015, 10:18 AM
RE: Arrogance
(08-10-2015 08:04 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 03:02 PM)Loom Wrote:  I appreciate that you've given so heartedly to charity (which many non-Christians do as well). I'm hardly financially stable enough to support myself, but I give to charities whenever I can.

...and I think the point I was trying to make went clear over your head. Saying a god is rewarding you when something good happens, all because you have a personal relationship with said god, is exactly the kind of arrogance I was talking about.

Not at all. I got it the first time. What you call arrogance, I call gratitude. What you call arrogance, I call humility. When you call arrogance, I call "judge not".

What you call gratitude, I call gullibility. What you call humility, I call stupidity. When you call arrogance, I call "judge yes!"

“Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, yes, gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up, must come down, down, down. Amen! If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it.”
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08-10-2015, 10:24 AM
RE: Arrogance
(05-10-2015 01:49 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  I support a family in Africa now with enough dollars that their child can go to school instead of work in the fields, and have been doing so for years. You?


Ah, look at the little christian ignoring the words of his savior. Warms me cockles.

"Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven." - Matthew 6:1

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08-10-2015, 10:26 AM
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(08-10-2015 08:04 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 03:02 PM)Loom Wrote:  I appreciate that you've given so heartedly to charity (which many non-Christians do as well). I'm hardly financially stable enough to support myself, but I give to charities whenever I can.

...and I think the point I was trying to make went clear over your head. Saying a god is rewarding you when something good happens, all because you have a personal relationship with said god, is exactly the kind of arrogance I was talking about.

Not at all. I got it the first time. What you call arrogance, I call gratitude. What you call arrogance, I call humility. When you call arrogance, I call "judge not".

Thank you for demonstrating you don't understand the definitions of 'arrogance' and 'humility.'

Ignorance is not to be ignored.

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08-10-2015, 10:41 AM
RE: Arrogance
(08-10-2015 10:24 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 01:49 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  I support a family in Africa now with enough dollars that their child can go to school instead of work in the fields, and have been doing so for years. You?


Ah, look at the little christian ignoring the words of his savior. Warms me cockles.

"Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven." - Matthew 6:1

Also, I don't think "enough dollars" would suffice according to jesus:

Matthew 19:21New International Version (NIV)

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

“Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, yes, gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up, must come down, down, down. Amen! If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it.”
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09-10-2015, 10:10 AM
RE: Arrogance
(05-10-2015 10:17 AM)Loom Wrote:  One day, they mixed up the hourly difference between my dad's watch and the actual time. They ended up embarking 4 hours early that day, and because they did, they got to enjoy several hours at a mountain biking park. The park would have been closed had they left on time. I seriously had to bite my tongue when my dad said, "Isn't it funny how god works?"

So next time things get screwed up for your Dad - and I don't mean this in a malevolent way, but simply that something annoying happens to him - how about quoting back at him, "Isn't it funny how god works?"

Or next time the TV news reports a tornado hitting some community in the mid-west and kills scores of people? There are bound to be those who ascribe the survival of some as "miraculous". Isn't it funny how god works? Not for those killed it isn't.
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09-10-2015, 11:22 AM
RE: Arrogance
(08-10-2015 10:24 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 01:49 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  I support a family in Africa now with enough dollars that their child can go to school instead of work in the fields, and have been doing so for years. You?


Ah, look at the little christian ignoring the words of his savior. Warms me cockles.

"Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven." - Matthew 6:1

I think you are confusing "doing acts of righteousness to be seen" with "witnessing the truth of the Bible to unbelievers".

I'm told atheists on forums like TTA are bitter and angry. If you are not, your posts to me will be respectful, insightful and thoughtful. Prove me wrong by your adherence to decent behavior.
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10-10-2015, 08:17 AM (This post was last modified: 10-10-2015 08:24 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Arrogance
double post

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10-10-2015, 08:24 AM
RE: Arrogance
(05-10-2015 01:49 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  I support a family in Africa now with enough dollars that their child can go to school instead of work in the fields, and have been doing so for years. You?

(09-10-2015 11:22 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  I think you are confusing "doing acts of righteousness to be seen" with "witnessing the truth of the Bible to unbelievers".

I'm talking about you bragging about helping the little children in Africa. Since you have your reward now of making yourself feel more charitable than the evil heathens you will receive no credit for it on judgement day.

And this is not the first time you have felt this need. I'm going with DLJ, you got a serious guilt complex.

(09-10-2015 11:22 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  I support several families in Africa and Asia (non-Christians) off my limited income besides giving to my church and preaching. You?

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