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29-08-2015, 03:03 PM
Ashley Madison Hack and Monagamy
I admit that I took a lot of joy in seeing Josh Duggar exposed, but overall I tend to agree with this guy.

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/ashley-m...amy/?fb=dd

Quote:Ashley Madison had over 39 million users. That’s 39 million men and women who decided to look outside the strictures of monogamy. This goes beyond “glitch in the system” and straight into “we’re missing something significant” territory, because just that's the tip of the iceberg.

According to studies published in The Journal of Couple & Relationship Therapy, 55 percent of married women and 60 percent of married men report being unfaithful to their spouses. When more than half of married couples are having affairs to one degree or another, that becomes a topic of concern, not because of any moral crisis but because we need to take a longer, harder look at how we view sex and monogamy.

I don't endorse cheating, but I also don't think there is inherently anything wrong with having sex with more than one person at a time - even if you're married. Just be ethical about it.

Sure, there are definitely more than a few assholes on the list, but even then, I don't like the idea of self righteous hackers acting as morality police.

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29-08-2015, 03:06 PM
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(29-08-2015 03:03 PM)Can_of_Beans Wrote:  I admit that I took a lot of joy in seeing Josh Duggar exposed, but overall I tend to agree with this guy.

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/ashley-m...amy/?fb=dd

Quote:Ashley Madison had over 39 million users. That’s 39 million men and women who decided to look outside the strictures of monogamy. This goes beyond “glitch in the system” and straight into “we’re missing something significant” territory, because just that's the tip of the iceberg.

According to studies published in The Journal of Couple & Relationship Therapy, 55 percent of married women and 60 percent of married men report being unfaithful to their spouses. When more than half of married couples are having affairs to one degree or another, that becomes a topic of concern, not because of any moral crisis but because we need to take a longer, harder look at how we view sex and monogamy.

I don't endorse cheating, but I also don't think there is inherently anything wrong with having sex with more than one person at a time - even if you're married. Just be ethical about it.

Sure, there are definitely more than a few assholes on the list, but even then, I don't like the idea of self righteous hackers acting as morality police.

Part of it is the secrecy, I think. Hiding something from your partner isn't usually a good thing, unless it's their birthday present.

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29-08-2015, 03:28 PM
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I can't stand cheating, out of a relationship sure, do however many people you want but once you get into a relationship your supposed to commit to that relationship and going outside a relationship is usually a signal that the relationship is not working so instead you should usually break up before you go explore other options. It's like joining a football team, a player won't join the Detroit Lions and play for the Steelers while he is signed to the Lions.

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29-08-2015, 03:51 PM
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(29-08-2015 03:06 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(29-08-2015 03:03 PM)Can_of_Beans Wrote:  I admit that I took a lot of joy in seeing Josh Duggar exposed, but overall I tend to agree with this guy.

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/ashley-m...amy/?fb=dd


I don't endorse cheating, but I also don't think there is inherently anything wrong with having sex with more than one person at a time - even if you're married. Just be ethical about it.

Sure, there are definitely more than a few assholes on the list, but even then, I don't like the idea of self righteous hackers acting as morality police.

Part of it is the secrecy, I think. Hiding something from your partner isn't usually a good thing, unless it's their birthday present.

Yeah, I agree with that.

If someone wants to have an open relationship, they should let their partner know. Of course, that's easier said than done and could have some significant, negative repercussions, but it's an important part of being ethical about it.

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29-08-2015, 03:52 PM
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I think the takeaway here is that women could have signed up for Ashley Madison, but they didn't... overwhelmingly, they didn't.

Granted a woman doesn't need to do nearly as much work to find a person with whom to cheat on their spouse, so they're less likely to need a website to do it on.

But I think it counters a lot of the present narrative about the fidelity of women in the post-feminist age... and says a lot of bad things about men. Heh. Sad

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29-08-2015, 03:59 PM
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This is more in reference to the Ashley Madison hack, not a comment on how often folks actually cheat in marriages: I read this interesting article that shows who was really using the site. Turns out there probably wasn't a lot of cheating going on through this site.

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29-08-2015, 04:11 PM
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I hate lawyers, too, but they'll get sued to oblivion; so it's like a big ol' evil self-correcting whirlpool. If you're building a platform to talk about monogamy, fine, monogamy's stupid; values held when we had half the expected lifespan should be reconsidered.

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29-08-2015, 05:33 PM
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I was wondering, how many people use this site not to cheat on their spouse, but to find a one night stand without having to hit the bars/dance floors or passing in the sewers of internet. It's not like you needed to send your marriage certificate to the administrators.
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29-08-2015, 06:10 PM
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(29-08-2015 05:33 PM)epronovost Wrote:  I was wondering, how many people use this site not to cheat on their spouse, but to find a one night stand without having to hit the bars/dance floors or passing in the sewers of internet. It's not like you needed to send your marriage certificate to the administrators.

Shit like this gives atheism a bad rep. Tongue

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29-08-2015, 06:29 PM
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I find it hard to believe that anyone finds it hard to believe that we're that prone to lying when it comes to sex.

I'll bet that 90% of Ashley Madison account holders got little more than fantasy fodder for masturbation at a high cost.

I honestly don't think that Josh Duggar cheated on his wife further than in his imagination with a bot.

The whole thing was a scam for dudes willing to pay for sex, the brilliant part being that they didn't need to actually get sex for them to pay for it.

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