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23-07-2013, 10:54 AM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
(23-07-2013 10:38 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(23-07-2013 09:56 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Thats silly Chas. They should cede control to England like everyone else did. It's their turn.

That's so 19th century. They had Hong Kong and fumbled it away.

Oh great now he's gonna tell us about his childhood. Tongue

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26-07-2013, 10:17 PM (This post was last modified: 26-07-2013 11:55 PM by HU.Junyuan.)
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
(15-07-2013 06:33 PM)Koolay Wrote:  What are the principles of the Chinese Communist Government, and do they break their own principles?

I have been quite busy recently. And I am sorry not to have answered you question earlier.

I intended to asked you to specify what kind of principles you are interested to know until I see the "Banned" thing under your ID.

Is it just kidding or for real?

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26-07-2013, 11:23 PM
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(19-07-2013 01:55 PM)loganbeaupre Wrote:  Do you agree with all the things they said?

[1] They said that it wasn't full Communism,

[2] and that they (they being the Government) doesn't pick your occupation

[3] They also don't prohibit private ownership (to a certain degree).

[4] He said that what they were generally trying to get across is that the current Chinese version of communism isn't all that bad.

[1] Yes and no. Officially, the current political status of China is call "the primary stage of socialism", meaning that China is not only far from communism, but also at a very crude stage of socialism.

Not communism? Yes.

[2] Yes, I agree. I studies biology sciences when I was an undergrad. I majored in plant genetic engineering when I was earning my master's degree. I am an interpreter and translator for an electronics manufacturing company now. All by my own choice.

[3] Yes. The richest man in China of 2013, excluding Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau, owns assets worth of 11.6 billion dollars. So far I haven't been informed of the specific number of that "certain degree".

[4] I can think of what they (they being the government, you said) were trying to get across. The current primary version of socialism (very different from communism) is not bad. But the reason why those government officials said so to your father was not to cover up anything. They just wanted to make their place appealing so that your father would do business there, hence contributing to the local GDP, which, in term, would add to the achievements of their official career.

(19-07-2013 01:55 PM)loganbeaupre Wrote:  How close is it to the American democracy (obviously can't be THAT close, it being communism)?

This is a big question and a comparison is not easy. But I will say that by western standards that I know of, if a total score is 100, USA democracy is 85, China is 60. I will not be surprised if someone else says 50 or lower. Yet I don't feel that bad.

China is a land which has survived countless natural and man-made catastrophes throughout her 5000 years of recorded history. So in our memes (if I am using this word correctly), we tend to prefer, either consciously or subconsciously, to follow a strong man's lead. So because of the cultural differences, when we talk about democracy, we might not be sharing exactly the same concept.

(19-07-2013 01:55 PM)loganbeaupre Wrote:  Do you ever feel threatened or scared of the Government?

Unlike what people regard the governments in the west, here in China, government meant sky (or any other heavenly authority), fate decider, and controlling parents. Now they say that they are public servants, but some, or many of them actually are not that far from controlling parents and not that close to public servants.

In the late 1980s and 1990s, when the government allowed state-owned plants to be able to go bankrupt, many employees of those firms got laid off.

At that time, the company that employed my father was on the brink. My father and people around felt frightened. They considered it an eminent threat that the government might run out on them.

That's the biggest incident ever happened to me and people around me after I was born, which puts threat or scare and the government together. And this might be able to give you a hint about the cultural differences between our countries about democracy and government.

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26-07-2013, 11:51 PM
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(23-07-2013 09:38 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Do you think that China would fair better with laxer social laws and a more representative government?

I am all for a government with more representation of the people in China. I think you know that in China we do have representatives and Congress, and those representatives come from elections of different levels. I've voted 3 times since I was 18.

And the CCP is now launching a campaign that CCP members should check whether we are strictly following the mass lines, i.e., serving and representing the needs of ordinary people around us and leading by excelling in our own jobs and setting examples. Any reported major violation of the mass line would face serious consequences.

I don't know whether more representation could be achieved by laxer social laws, since I don't feel much, if any, pressure posed by the laws on me.

As for me, I find no reason or need now to publicly criticize the government or to put on a demonstration. And recently we both have people in our countries arrested for having been caught of threatening to do some violent behavior, which broke the laws.

(23-07-2013 09:38 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  How does your nation fair when providing aid to those who do not live in the cities?

I don't know much about this. Here's what I know.

[1] No agricultural tax and various subsidies for farming.

[2] New Rural Cooperative Medical System, an cheap insurance and medical system that covers 95% of the people outside the cities (from news of 2011).

[3] Marketing consulting services from the government.

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26-07-2013, 11:54 PM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
Probably see you guys next week.

And have a nice weekend.

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27-07-2013, 02:06 AM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
(26-07-2013 11:51 PM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  
(23-07-2013 09:38 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Do you think that China would fair better with laxer social laws and a more representative government?

I am all for a government with more representation of the people in China. I think you know that in China we do have representatives and Congress, and those representatives come from elections of different levels. I've voted 3 times since I was 18.

And the CCP is now launching a campaign that CCP members should check whether we are strictly following the mass lines, i.e., serving and representing the needs of ordinary people around us and leading by excelling in our own jobs and setting examples. Any reported major violation of the mass line would face serious consequences.

I don't know whether more representation could be achieved by laxer social laws, since I don't feel much, if any, pressure posed by the laws on me.

As for me, I find no reason or need now to publicly criticize the government or to put on a demonstration. And recently we both have people in our countries arrested for having been caught of threatening to do some violent behavior, which broke the laws.

(23-07-2013 09:38 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  How does your nation fair when providing aid to those who do not live in the cities?

I don't know much about this. Here's what I know.

[1] No agricultural tax and various subsidies for farming.

[2] New Rural Cooperative Medical System, an cheap insurance and medical system that covers 95% of the people outside the cities (from news of 2011).

[3] Marketing consulting services from the government.

So with both issues, can you explain why there is such rampant poverty in both urban and rural areas? The average person still does not feel the massive wealth in China. Your wealth inequality is even worse than the U.S'.

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27-07-2013, 10:01 PM
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So how about Snowden being kicked out eh?
And here you were going on and on and on about how China was offering him a safe place to be...
LOL.

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27-07-2013, 10:11 PM
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Why is this shit still stickied btw?

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27-07-2013, 10:37 PM
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(27-07-2013 10:11 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Why is this shit still stickied btw?

Why is the ask a muslim thread still stickied in the Atheism/theism forum there hasn't been one here the entire time I've been on the forum. I don't think the Mods really think about unsticking threads once they have been stickied.

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02-08-2013, 10:44 PM
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(27-07-2013 02:06 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  So with both issues, can you explain why there is such rampant poverty in both urban and rural areas? The average person still does not feel the massive wealth in China. Your wealth inequality is even worse than the U.S'.

I don't think I need to explain that, do I?

If you are still interested, after you have shown some data to support your question-ish arguments, I will tell you whether or not I agree and why.

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