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09-08-2013, 07:12 AM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
(09-08-2013 07:08 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  This is beyond a joke, seriously can this shit be unstickied now please?

Why? I am currently in a cordial, tactful debate with this individual who you so despise - and I am fucking winning. Tongue
Instead of bitching for the unstickying of this thread, root for the home team. Dodgy

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09-08-2013, 07:19 AM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
Fuck off.

Unsticky this thread please someone.

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09-08-2013, 07:22 AM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
I have one question for honorable Chinese Communist.
When I travel to the Heavenly Kingdom, will they say to me :
"Confucius say, Baseball got it all wrong — man with four balls cannot walk."

That is my only question.

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09-08-2013, 07:30 AM
RE: Ask a (GASP) CHINESE COMMUNIST ! ! !
(09-08-2013 07:19 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  Fuck off.

Unsticky this thread please someone.

Why do you let this this thread piss you off so much?

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09-08-2013, 01:59 PM
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(09-08-2013 07:30 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(09-08-2013 07:19 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  Fuck off.

Unsticky this thread please someone.

Why do you let this this thread piss you off so much?

I said it's a joke retard, it doesn't piss me off.

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09-08-2013, 02:25 PM
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(09-08-2013 01:59 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(09-08-2013 07:30 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Why do you let this this thread piss you off so much?

I said it's a joke retard, it doesn't piss me off.

What is a "joke retard?"

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09-08-2013, 02:29 PM
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(09-08-2013 02:25 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(09-08-2013 01:59 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  I said it's a joke retard, it doesn't piss me off.

What is a "joke retard?"

I think that's a delayed joke. Consider

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09-08-2013, 07:58 PM
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Logica,

Do you have figures on Europe's income inequality during its own industrial revolution? It would seem fairer to compare comparable eras than to compare modern China to modern Europe or to modern North America.

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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10-08-2013, 03:28 AM
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(09-08-2013 07:58 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  Logica,

Do you have figures on Europe's income inequality during its own industrial revolution? It would seem fairer to compare comparable eras than to compare modern China to modern Europe or to modern North America.

How is it unfair?
Because you know China can't stand up to modern standards is that it?
Why should we lower our standards as so China can meet them?

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10-08-2013, 04:06 AM
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The question here is income inequality, which is to say the distribution of wealth across a country. The assumption is that it is inherently bad to have income inequality. I don't accept that temporary income inequality is inherently bad. That's like saying it's inherently bad for molecules of water at the base of a kettle to be significantly hotter than those at the top of the kettle when the kettle is first turned on. It isn't a stable situation, but to say it must never occur is to say that all groups within a society must have approximately the same income (or all molecules in the kettle to have approximately the same temperature) at all times. That doesn't allow time for income to flow from one area of the economy to another area, and isn't a reasonable expectation.

Income inequality is an unstable situation as I say, and in a developed economy is a bad thing. In a developing economy it does take time to resolve such things, and although an area of concern is not in and of itself a critical failing. Hong Kong, Shanghai, all of the special administrative regions... these areas have greater wealth than other regions of the country. Cities such as Bejing or Nanjing where people are still moving from subsistence farming into city living have inherent income inequality as those with nothing become integrated into city society.

A generation ago China was experiencing widespread starvation and economic ruin. This generation China is able to feed itself, is able to stand on its own two feet, and is able to compete internationally. That's a massive shift in a short period of time, and it's absolutely true that this wealth hasn't been distributed through the population at this time.

Noone is asking anyone to lower their standards, but to expect China to be a developed economy when it is clearly not a developed economy but instead a developing economy is not logically sound. "Compared to the inequality in the majority of socialist states, like Sweden (found below), China has disgusting wealth inequality." is an accurate but a meaningless statement. Sweden has a modern developed economy and has had plenty of time for economic inequality to work its way out of the system. China has not had the time these quirks need to resolve themselves.

Why would you expect China's economy to meet the standards of a developed economy?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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