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17-01-2014, 04:58 PM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(17-01-2014 04:34 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  To myself, "by the fruits" seems like a vague method of confirmation for a prophet of GOD. Plenty of good people have had fruitful lives helping others and the world around them - can any of them claim to be a prophet?
Actually any person who receives PERSONAL revelations from God is a prophet. So anybody can be a prophet but not every person/prophet has the KEYS or authority from God to represent Him.
If someone claims to be a prophet of God he must bring fruits that only prophets can bring.

(17-01-2014 04:34 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Have you yourself ever made the determination that a church appointed prophet was not true prophet?
I had personal revelations about certain prophets and this is how I know that they are prophets of God. For the rest of the prophets I just know by their fruits.
Church is growing and progressing. This is one of the fruits that is evidence to me that it is led by true prophets of God of Israel.
P.S. no, not yet.

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18-01-2014, 09:08 AM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(17-01-2014 04:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  I have reasons to trust them so far
Consider what reasons ?

Dreams/Hallucinations/delusions are not evidence
Wishful thinking is not evidence
Disproved statements&Illogical conclusions are not evidence
Logical fallacies&Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence
Vague prophecies is not evidence
Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence
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18-01-2014, 09:22 AM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(17-01-2014 04:19 PM)Alla Wrote:  Jesus said that by the fruits we may know who is true prophet and who is false prophet.

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I guess Gwynnie was seeing if Graham was a true prophet. Big Grin

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18-01-2014, 09:37 AM
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Just picking the low hanging fruit, eh Cantor ?

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18-01-2014, 02:03 PM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(17-01-2014 04:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 04:34 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  To myself, "by the fruits" seems like a vague method of confirmation for a prophet of GOD. Plenty of good people have had fruitful lives helping others and the world around them - can any of them claim to be a prophet?
Actually any person who receives PERSONAL revelations from God is a prophet. So anybody can be a prophet but not every person/prophet has the KEYS or authority from God to represent Him.
If someone claims to be a prophet of God he must bring fruits that only prophets can bring.

(17-01-2014 04:34 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Have you yourself ever made the determination that a church appointed prophet was not true prophet?
I had personal revelations about certain prophets and this is how I know that they are prophets of God. For the rest of the prophets I just know by their fruits.
Church is growing and progressing. This is one of the fruits that is evidence to me that it is led by true prophets of God of Israel.
P.S. no, not yet.

I assume a personal revelation is a thought or voice in your head. How do you make the distinction between your own mind producing messages, and a God's revelation?

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20-01-2014, 01:58 AM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(18-01-2014 02:03 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  I assume a personal revelation is a thought or voice in your head. How do you make the distinction between your own mind producing messages, and a God's revelation?

I've already asked her that question before and never got an answer.

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20-01-2014, 02:19 AM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(18-01-2014 02:03 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 04:58 PM)Alla Wrote:  Actually any person who receives PERSONAL revelations from God is a prophet. So anybody can be a prophet but not every person/prophet has the KEYS or authority from God to represent Him.
If someone claims to be a prophet of God he must bring fruits that only prophets can bring.

I had personal revelations about certain prophets and this is how I know that they are prophets of God. For the rest of the prophets I just know by their fruits.
Church is growing and progressing. This is one of the fruits that is evidence to me that it is led by true prophets of God of Israel.
P.S. no, not yet.

I assume a personal revelation is a thought or voice in your head. How do you make the distinction between your own mind producing messages, and a God's revelation?

It's magic; he aint gotta explain shit.

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20-01-2014, 03:46 AM
RE: Ask a Mormon
(20-01-2014 02:19 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  It's magic; he aint gotta explain shit.

Shame on you FT! As per cjlr, you must remember to post the corresponding image whenever using that phrase to disparage blind faith!

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20-01-2014, 04:21 AM
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(20-01-2014 03:46 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(20-01-2014 02:19 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  It's magic; he aint gotta explain shit.

Shame on you FT! As per cjlr, you must remember to post the corresponding image whenever using that phrase to disparage blind faith!

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Meanwhile, elsewhere on the internet:

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20-01-2014, 04:55 AM (This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 05:04 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Ask a Mormon
(20-01-2014 04:21 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(20-01-2014 03:46 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Shame on you FT! As per cjlr, you must remember to post the corresponding image whenever using that phrase to disparage blind faith!

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Meanwhile, elsewhere on the internet:

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Yabut, she doesn't look nearly as stoned as the little Dungeon Master dude from that 80's D&D kids show does...

Also, that's totally the Sorceress chick that was making a kerfuffle for that Vanillaware game Dragon's Crown last year.

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