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03-07-2012, 10:13 AM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 10:07 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 09:53 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  The reason why I don't automatically dismiss the bible is because scriptual evidence can't prove the existance of God, but it can prove that your view of christianity is correct based on the bible.

I wasn't asking on evidence FOR God, I was asking for evidence that his view of God would be the correct one, scripture is a valid point of evidence in that view.

I hope that I am communicating what I am trying to say as clearly as possible.

Oh no, you are... just not many atheists speak in that regard.
I am what? And what regard do I speak in?

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03-07-2012, 10:16 AM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 10:09 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 10:00 AM)Vosur Wrote:  I've got one as well. Why is it that you base your entire belief on one experience, even though you know that the brain cannot always be trusted? You may have had hallucinations or something similar. Have you ever considered this possibility?

I've tried to logically "out think" this... but, I just can't shake the belief.
It sounds like you actually don't want to be a theist.

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03-07-2012, 10:21 AM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 10:16 AM)Vosur Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 10:09 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I've tried to logically "out think" this... but, I just can't shake the belief.
It sounds like you actually don't want to be a theist.
It sounds more like he doesn't want to shake the belief. He went looking in the Bible for support instead of thinking critically and skeptically.

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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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03-07-2012, 10:26 AM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 10:13 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 10:07 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Oh no, you are... just not many atheists speak in that regard.
I am what? And what regard do I speak in?

I mean, I'm just not used to atheists asking about and considering theology. It's a compliment.

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03-07-2012, 10:29 AM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 10:16 AM)Vosur Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 10:09 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I've tried to logically "out think" this... but, I just can't shake the belief.
It sounds like you actually don't want to be a theist.

I know it doesn't make logical sense.

I believe in God because He has given me the faith to do so. If I didn't have that faith, then I couldn't believe.

I want to be a theist because God has chosen me... even though I have no choice, so I guess my "want" is actually what God has instilled in me.

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03-07-2012, 10:30 AM
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(03-07-2012 10:21 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 10:16 AM)Vosur Wrote:  It sounds like you actually don't want to be a theist.
It sounds more like he doesn't want to shake the belief. He went looking in the Bible for support instead of thinking critically and skeptically.

I also went to other holy books as well as thought critically. The Bible was the last stop.

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03-07-2012, 10:31 AM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 10:26 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 10:13 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  I am what? And what regard do I speak in?

I mean, I'm just not used to atheists asking about and considering theology. It's a compliment.
No problem.

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03-07-2012, 12:37 PM
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What is heaven like in your mind?
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03-07-2012, 12:51 PM
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(03-07-2012 10:30 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  The Bible was the last stop.
You have committed the common fallacy of getting off the bus too early Big Grin
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03-07-2012, 02:03 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(03-07-2012 12:37 PM)Magoo Wrote:  What is heaven like in your mind?

Physically, I don't exactly what to expect except for it being a paradise. I know that there will be no pain of any kind, and we are going to praise God for eternity.

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