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11-09-2012, 03:30 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:22 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:20 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  All interpretations are pretty subjective; however, I try to keep an even keel with my beliefs and have things line up.

And how does one create an accurate, subjective, theological perspective when all known facts about the Bible disprove it?

Facts about what?

Sorry, don't understand your question.

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11-09-2012, 03:31 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:30 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:22 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  And how does one create an accurate, subjective, theological perspective when all known facts about the Bible disprove it?

Facts about what?

Sorry, don't understand your question.

How are you able to acquire sufficient evidence to support your perception of Biblical stories?

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11-09-2012, 03:42 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:31 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:30 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Facts about what?

Sorry, don't understand your question.

How are you able to acquire sufficient evidence to support your perception of Biblical stories?

Through the languages, the context of the stories, the history of the writers and the books, the audience, the commonly held beliefs of that time, and the history of the peoples of that time.

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11-09-2012, 03:49 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:42 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:31 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  How are you able to acquire sufficient evidence to support your perception of Biblical stories?

Through the languages, the context of the stories, the history of the writers and the books, the audience, the commonly held beliefs of that time, and the history of the peoples of that time.

How do you support the idea that they are correct?

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11-09-2012, 03:54 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:49 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:42 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Through the languages, the context of the stories, the history of the writers and the books, the audience, the commonly held beliefs of that time, and the history of the peoples of that time.

How do you support the idea that they are correct?

Through the best evidence of the aforementioned things.

ex:

If someone argues for a literal Genesis, I counter with ANE culture and history and support my case with historical evidence and showing them Biblical interpretations that coincides with this evidence.

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11-09-2012, 03:56 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:54 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:49 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  How do you support the idea that they are correct?

Through the best evidence of the aforementioned things.

ex:

If someone argues for a literal Genesis, I counter with ANE culture and history and support my case with historical evidence and showing them Biblical interpretations that coincides with this evidence.

No, no. How do you justify your perspective in the light of facts? Or is this believe all faith-based? Quite clearly the Bible has nothing to indicate it being a truth.

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11-09-2012, 03:57 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:56 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:54 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Through the best evidence of the aforementioned things.

ex:

If someone argues for a literal Genesis, I counter with ANE culture and history and support my case with historical evidence and showing them Biblical interpretations that coincides with this evidence.

No, no. How do you justify your perspective in the light of facts? Or is this believe all faith-based? Quite clearly the Bible has nothing to indicate it being a truth.

My Christian belief?

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11-09-2012, 03:58 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:57 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:56 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  No, no. How do you justify your perspective in the light of facts? Or is this believe all faith-based? Quite clearly the Bible has nothing to indicate it being a truth.

My Christian belief?

Your Calvinist belief.

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11-09-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
(11-09-2012 03:58 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:57 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  My Christian belief?

Your Calvinist belief.

I'm not sure on what you consider "facts".

Christians consider the Bible as fact and follow its teachings. The Bible teaches a Calvinistic point of view, so that would be my "facts".

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11-09-2012, 04:02 PM
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(11-09-2012 04:00 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(11-09-2012 03:58 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Your Calvinist belief.

I'm not sure on what you consider "facts".

Christians consider the Bible as fact and follow its teachings. The Bible teaches a Calvinistic point of view, so that would be my "facts".

And non-religious scholars agree that the Bible is not factual, that it is concocted.
It is only the circular reasoning of faith/evidence that supports your theses.

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