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10-12-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: Ask a Theist!
Not sure what they believe, could you give me a brief explanation of what you believe and what the difference is as it pertains to my question. Thanks. Smile

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10-12-2014, 03:51 PM
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(10-12-2014 03:49 PM)microterf Wrote:  Not sure what they believe, could you give me a brief explanation of what you believe and what the difference is as it pertains to my question. Thanks. Smile

I don't believe in free will.

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10-12-2014, 04:53 PM
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(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 03:49 PM)microterf Wrote:  Not sure what they believe, could you give me a brief explanation of what you believe and what the difference is as it pertains to my question. Thanks. Smile

I don't believe in free will.

Which is actually a more in line with the bible. Free Will is not mentioned not stated to be a thing in the Holy Book.

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11-12-2014, 12:30 PM
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(10-12-2014 04:53 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  I don't believe in free will.

Which is actually a more in line with the bible. Free Will is not mentioned not stated to be a thing in the Holy Book.

Yep. In fact, it's actually blatantly written against. Free Will just isn't something we can have if God is O-cubed.

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11-12-2014, 01:28 PM
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But if God is 0^3 then God == 0

Also Problem of Evil.

Also no weaselling by redefining evil.

P.O.E. applies using *human* def of evil, because argument is that evil God is not worthy to worship.

IIRC your previous answer to this was that you have no choice but to worship? Still feel the same way? You ever get angry with God?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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11-12-2014, 02:19 PM
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(10-12-2014 03:51 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  I don't believe in free will.

At least you got that going for you. Tongue

Doesn't believing in a personal God/Jesus/Scary Ghost diminish the sacrifice of The Christ? To suggest salvation depends on anything my sorry ass believes seems like the utmost in arrogance. Universal reconciliation elevates the sacrifice of The Christ to its proper eminence. The basic tenet is sacrifice of The Christ saved everyone past, present, and future regardless of anything we do or say or believe.

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11-12-2014, 02:24 PM
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(11-12-2014 02:19 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  The basic tenet is sacrifice of The Christ saved everyone past, present, and future regardless of anything we do or say or believe.

Saved us from... ?

Still got no clue how afixing a holy ape-descendant to organic ligneous material with sharpened ferrous pointy objects *while said ape was still in a non-deceased state* somehow heals the universe.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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11-12-2014, 02:27 PM
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(11-12-2014 02:24 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 02:19 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  The basic tenet is sacrifice of The Christ saved everyone past, present, and future regardless of anything we do or say or believe.

Saved us from... ?

Ourselves silly.

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11-12-2014, 02:32 PM
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(11-12-2014 02:27 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 02:24 PM)morondog Wrote:  Saved us from... ?

Ourselves silly.

Ah... but I was not saved from myself...?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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11-12-2014, 02:49 PM
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(11-12-2014 02:32 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 02:27 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Ourselves silly.

Ah... but I was not saved from myself...?

You just gotta have faith.Big Grin




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