Ask a Theist!
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30-05-2012, 11:00 AM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(16-05-2012 03:36 PM)angry-santa Wrote: Iv'e got one; Why is hell an infinite punishment for a finite transgression? It's not your sins per se that damn you to hell; however, it's the lack of being elect. Sin results in hell. God created sin and for humans to sin; therefore damning humanity. His grace granted a few salvation. But as for your question more specifically, only perfection can enter heaven. Since humanity is sinful, no one can enter heaven, no matter how "small" for finite the sin is. Christ imputed His righteousness to the elect; therefore, the elect's sins are forgiven. ![]() |
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30-05-2012, 11:03 AM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(16-05-2012 03:50 PM)Crusher Wrote: Assuming the OP doesn't do everything the bible tells him to do like sell all his posessions and kill gays, cheating husbands and wives, children who don't listen, etc. Jewish purity laws and laws were for the Jews. They were meant to set the Jews apart from all the other nations... basically to have other nations say "wtf is up with those weirdos." The laws were also there to preserve the purity of the Messianic line. You have to read scripture in context, and, in actuality, saying that modern day Christians should kill gays is cherry picking the Bible and taking it out of context. ![]() |
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30-05-2012, 11:05 AM
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30-05-2012, 11:08 AM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(30-05-2012 11:05 AM)kingschosen Wrote:But why do you think that cherry-picking God's law should be okay for us if it wasn't okay for the Israelites? I doubt that God's opinion about this has changed at all.(19-05-2012 02:34 PM)Vosur Wrote: "Now, IsraelThis is what I'm talking about. Edit: more friendly formulation ![]() ![]() |
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30-05-2012, 11:12 AM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(23-05-2012 08:32 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: Hi! This is my first time stepping up and trying to ask a serious question, and I thought I might as well try this thread. I'm not sure about the question. Do you mean biblically or evidence in my personal life? ![]() |
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30-05-2012, 11:16 AM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(30-05-2012 10:59 AM)Vosur Wrote:(30-05-2012 10:54 AM)kingschosen Wrote: God controls that. God has predetermined every bit of minutia ever.How could you possibly know this? I don't "know" anything (I'm not omniscient). This is my belief based on my understanding of God. If God is a being that is omnipotent and omniscient, then everything down to the smallest minutia was planned by Him. ![]() |
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04-06-2012, 01:35 PM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(30-05-2012 11:03 AM)kingschosen Wrote:It was just an example, so the bible should only be followed litteraly by jews? Shouldn't the Messianic line be preserved now? Are the ten commandments also just for the jews? How different do messages like Luke 12:33 become when you put them in context?(16-05-2012 03:50 PM)Crusher Wrote: Assuming the OP doesn't do everything the bible tells him to do like sell all his posessions and kill gays, cheating husbands and wives, children who don't listen, etc. chan chan ki sikin aman |
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04-06-2012, 05:39 PM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(30-05-2012 11:12 AM)kingschosen Wrote:Physical. I do not consider using the bible as evidence( unless it relates to something we can observe nowadays.). I prefer physical, feelable, observable evidence that supports your particular worldview.(23-05-2012 08:32 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: Hi! This is my first time stepping up and trying to ask a serious question, and I thought I might as well try this thread. I dislike using personal experiences because they are just that... Personal. ![]() Credit goes to UndercoverAtheist. |
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04-06-2012, 05:41 PM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(30-05-2012 11:16 AM)kingschosen Wrote:So... Then... You believe there is no free will?(30-05-2012 10:59 AM)Vosur Wrote: How could you possibly know this? ![]() Credit goes to UndercoverAtheist. |
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05-06-2012, 12:53 AM
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RE: Ask a Theist!
(04-06-2012 05:41 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: So... Then... You believe there is no free will?You believe there is? ![]() |
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