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12-03-2014, 01:37 AM
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Ok, so I'm still a theist of sorts with a fundy christian background.
I don't know really what I still believe, nor am I brave enough to actually debate. Buuuuut, you guys ask me stuff and I'll try to answer and you guys give me your responses and supporting evidence as I'm sure you have a lot more than I do right now.

If this was a debate, I would lose horridly. I wouldn't mind a discussion though... just... be gentle? maybe? Heart
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12-03-2014, 01:40 AM
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If you don't mind, could you describe your Christian upbringing in a bit more detail?

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12-03-2014, 01:43 AM
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(12-03-2014 01:40 AM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  If you don't mind, could you describe your Christian upbringing in a bit more detail?

Sure.

I've been Baptist all my life. Mostly Southern Baptist, then Baptist with a very slight charismatic flavor, then the Fundamental Baptist.
I was the one in church everyone asked their questions to. I eventually got married, and he and I went to a fundamentalist church. We were heavily into Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, Answers in Genesis, etc.

And I was to submit to and obey my husband.

In everything.

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12-03-2014, 01:45 AM
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The bible was taken literally except in cases of obvious allegory. Meaning yes, homosexuality was considered an abomination. Yes, husbands had authority over the wives. Yes, a literal 6-day creation. All that.
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12-03-2014, 01:47 AM
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Okay

Just for clarification, what's the difference between vanilla Southern Baptist and Fundamental Baptist?

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12-03-2014, 01:52 AM
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I'd say there are a whole lot of similarities with the beliefs, but there is more rigidity with the rules in the fundamental baptist. There's also generally a big emphasis on activism within fundamentalism as far as evangelism, homeschooling, etc. etc. The issue of women is definitely done more strictly in the fundamentalist sectors. Vanilla Baptist would hold many of the same beliefs, but with a much lighter and gentler touch... also usually more community involvement beyond evangelism in the vanilla baptist circles (feeding the poor, etc).
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12-03-2014, 01:53 AM
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Also, fundamental baptists would usually have a negative reaction to regular baptists for being too "liberal" and "watered down."
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12-03-2014, 01:56 AM
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Ah yes, that's what I thought was the case (I've personally always considered Southern Baptists to be the hellfire and brimstone evangelicals just by default, but it seems to me that these are in particular found within the branch of Fundamental Baptism according to what you are saying).

What led you to start questioning your beliefs?

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12-03-2014, 02:07 AM
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(12-03-2014 01:56 AM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Ah yes, that's what I thought was the case (I've personally always considered Southern Baptists to be the hellfire and brimstone evangelicals just by default, but it seems to me that these are in particular found within the branch of Fundamental Baptism according to what you are saying).
Weeelllll the Southern Baptists can get pretty worked up in their sermons, there's no doubt about that. The actual preaching can get pretty fiery sometimes. The difference though is that in fundamentalism, it doesn't stop at the sermon... it's pervasive... you live and breathe it all the time. In regular Baptist, after church it's still pretty gentle and cheerful even after a fiery sermon. But in fundamentalism? The sermon is only the beginning. Note that this is just a generalization, and that exceptions do exist.

Quote:What led you to start questioning your beliefs?
Certain realities of life and justice were not measuring up to what was "supposed to be" if God was really concerned about justice. Then I was about to debate with a girl online about a wife's rights within the marriage sexually and show her that yes, a wife DOES have sexual rights. Except I went through to look it up to show her and I saw that no, no the Bible does NOT grant women any sexual rights except to submit. No safewords involved. And then I saw where on one hand it's supposedly an abomination to shed innocent blood, but the spilling of innocent blood is just so RAMPANT (this is why I have that quote in my sig, actually).

Things weren't lining up.

I was abused by my husband who was a deacon. I was raped, and then we went to the pastor and his wife for counselling. The pastor said it was better for my husband to do that than to give into the temptation of the porn. My husband had a porn addiction. I can never measure up to those women. But it was always seen as my fault or responsibility to keep him sated, blah blah blah.

Well let's just say I had to run. So I got out. But I'm in a bad situation (not going there atm) and he is just rosy as can be with his $120K per year income. He's had the support and blessing of the church and apparently God.

So this is justice.

Now I'm not sure WHAT to think, and now I'm here.
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12-03-2014, 02:10 AM
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Are you still pretending to be the devout christian or do some people know of your doubts? Are you open with your questions?
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