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26-05-2015, 02:41 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:37 PM)WalkingSnake Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:35 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  So right are wrong, are merely what a consensus in a society agrees upon?

YES

P.S. Even a religious society.

Suppose I was born into a tribe that engages in infanticide of their handicap children. Would I be able to perceive the tribes actions as wrong, on some basis other than social consensus? Like empathy?
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26-05-2015, 02:41 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:41 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:37 PM)WalkingSnake Wrote:  YES

P.S. Even a religious society.

Suppose I was a child, born into a tribe that engages in infanticide of their handicap children. Would I be able to perceive the tribes actions as wrong, on some basis other than social consensus?

NO

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26-05-2015, 02:42 PM
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26-05-2015, 02:42 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:41 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:37 PM)WalkingSnake Wrote:  YES

P.S. Even a religious society.

Suppose I was a child, born into a tribe that engages in infanticide of their handicap children. Would I be able to perceive the tribes actions as wrong, on some basis other than social consensus? Like empathy?

Potentially yes; potentially no. It depends on how significant you would deem some moral values. Your society would have influence on you but some people can see outside or from other perspectives not of their society. But group influence is a strong social function.

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26-05-2015, 02:43 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:41 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:41 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  Suppose I was a child, born into a tribe that engages in infanticide of their handicap children. Would I be able to perceive the tribes actions as wrong, on some basis other than social consensus?

NO

So I wouldn't be able to perceive my tribes actions as wrong? If so, why not?
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26-05-2015, 02:44 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:43 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:41 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  NO

So I wouldn't be able to perceive my tribes actions as wrong? If so, why not?

Not until you learn the culture of your tribe.

See how that works yet? Your morals come from your society, not the other way around.

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26-05-2015, 02:45 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:35 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:28 PM)WalkingSnake Wrote:  Didn't read the rest of my post?

I thought I did.

Quote:To sum it up. Morality is not as simple as you are making it. No, torturing babies is not "wrong". It's what society agrees it is. If the society agrees that it's wrong, then to them it's wrong.

So right are wrong, are merely what a consensus in a society agrees upon?

You have become the most exhausting poster in this forum FFS! The same damn thing over and over, with the same damn answers that you just cannot comprehend. And the inane line of constant questions is desperate and dodgy at best.

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26-05-2015, 02:46 PM
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(26-05-2015 02:42 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Potentially yes; potentially no. It depends on how significant you would deem some moral values. Your society would have influence on you but some people can see outside or from other perspectives not of their society. But group influence is a strong social function.

What do you mean by some people can see outside?
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26-05-2015, 02:47 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:45 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:35 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  I thought I did.


So right are wrong, are merely what a consensus in a society agrees upon?

You have become the most exhausting poster in this forum FFS! The same damn thing over and over, with the same damn answers that you just cannot comprehend. And the inane line of constant questions is desperate and dodgy at best.

Yeah, he has beat this dead horse up and down numerous posts.

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26-05-2015, 02:47 PM
RE: Atheism and morality
(26-05-2015 02:45 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  
(26-05-2015 02:35 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  I thought I did.


So right are wrong, are merely what a consensus in a society agrees upon?

You have become the most exhausting poster in this forum FFS! The same damn thing over and over, with the same damn answers that you just cannot comprehend. And the inane line of constant questions is desperate and dodgy at best.

Tomasia, I think you should start a new thread and we can talk about fashion---outfits/shoes subjectively Smile I'm up for that Thumbsup

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