Atheism and the Conversion Factors
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07-01-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
(07-01-2016 07:42 PM)5senses Wrote:  You are right Mr Chas. My last post looks like words salad. I have to find another way to explain this story. Lets go back to Shodinger's cat again to see how we can identify the three systems l am talking about. The Relativity system, the Quantum system, and the Quantum Gravity system. Note these are systems not theories. A Relativity system is a system that compute using brute logic. Very much like a CPU. A Quantum system is a system that also compute using brute disorders and chaos. The more the mayhem the more the computing power. Also known as a Quantum jittering. But imagine a big rock, by chance, it fall off a mountain peak and start breaking. At the top most of the fall or farther away from gravity there are less pieces then at the bottom. Thus at the top there is less disorders than at the bottom. At the bottom, is more chaos, more possibility, and more computing power. As time passes entropy increase, computing power increase, and so does complexity. Instead of calling a Quantum system a random or a chaos computer let calls it a computer that scramble information. A slow scramble would be some random event that happening close to the event horizon. This place has less gravity than the one close to the singularity of a black hole. The area next to the singularity is called fast scrambling. If you take a picture close to the event horizon it would be clearer than the one taken close to the singularity. The best picture would be at the event horizon. Which is clear and not scrambled. A Quantum Gravity system is the only system that can put us inside the event horizon. When you in your room and able to use all your 5 senses on it this is what is like to be inside the event horizon. The rest of the stuff that is outside the room or out of the reach of your 5 senses it is considered scrambled. Instead of seeing tables and chairs you would see blur wave interference. Which is a wave functions and a Quantum system again. A Quantum Gravity system is the system that collapse that wave functions. A system that make measurement is the same thing as a recognition system. For examples, smell recognition, sounds recognition, images recognition, touch recognition, and taste recognition. Only these systems can collapse a wave functions.

Man l haven't reach that cat in box yet!!

Sorry, but this is word salad as well. You are misusing terms an comcepts that you don't understand a t all.

Try it again in simple terms that are your own.

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07-01-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
(19-12-2015 06:28 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(19-12-2015 06:14 PM)5senses Wrote:  In a Quantum system complexity is not the only thing that increase over time. Entropy also increase over time. As we will see entropy and complexity come hand in hand. Complexity is multiple switches that lives inside two complementarity brains or two entangled brain. For example to make an aluminum box it takes two brains. One brain start with my brain. Inside my brain are switches called synapses working together to computer. Synapses are biological switches but nevertheless they turn on and off like switches. There are many kinds of switches that most of us knew. There are mechanical switches starting from a piece of metal to motors and gears. And there are electronic switches. And if you think about it the whole universe can be covered and operated by switches. But switches can become sensors depending on what system you in. If you are in a Relativity system/4D brain world the switches are switches and anything you called a sensors or detector must be called a switch. For example the synapses in my brain can be a sensors or switches. But it must be called switches because it's inside a brain and use for the purpose of computing. Who decides to switch from sensor to switch or from switch to sensor? Something outside the brain world. Lets imagine the blind man again. Since he is blind he could not see. In other words his eyes sensors is disabled. He can open and close his eyes lids. Then the eyes lids become switches and part of his computing brain. The eyes lids are slave to the mind. Notice that the eyes lids are not sensors until it hit something external. The blind man can also move his eyes ball up or down. As soon as he does that the eyes ball become switches and part of the brain world. Again if the eyes ball hit something external they are converted to sensors which are used for measurement and detection. But measurement and detection are in the Quantum Gravity system. What about when the blind man uses his walking stick? When does the stick become a switch or a sensors?
Again the blind man can blindly poke his way out. But without hitting anything external the walking stick is said to be a switch. Part of a combination of switches starting from his brain cells to the muscles of his arm his hand, the bones, and the stick. All switching according to the mind and part of the mind.Nothing here is said to be outside the brain world. Blindly poking around does not look intelligent to those who has eyes but it is computation complexity. What they saw is the limit of computation and complexity from a Quantum Gravity system perspective. Now let say that the blind man and his stick finally hit something. As soon as the tip of the walking stick hit the external object the stick and what ever it connect to become sensors. If we focus on the point of contact and the sensation it has it tells us that reality is not the internal brain complexity/switches nor the outside world but the boundary between the two world. Which is at the event horizon itself. That's just a 2 dimensions thin sheet.

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We probe how e-business can be applied to the exploration of B-trees. Existing read-write and event-driven frameworks use optimal technology to visualize probabilistic models. Two properties make this solution ideal: GNAWER is impossible, and also GNAWER controls the understanding of model checking. Unfortunately, gigabit switches might not be the panacea that mathematicians expected. Along these same lines, for example, many algorithms cache replication. Thus, GNAWER is derived from the understanding of erasure coding.

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Finally! It all makes so much sense, now!
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07-01-2016, 07:55 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
Myself at 17 years old I decided in Bible Doctrines class to announce that if God is as He is described here He has no respect coming from me. Why did I get kicked out of that school? I will never understand. But later on reading and studying on my own like the song says "Trying to make some sense of it all, to me it made no sense at all!" In the church we were always exhorted to study and study some more, and I studied my way right out of the insanity known as Christianity.
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07-01-2016, 08:05 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
(07-01-2016 07:42 PM)5senses Wrote:  A system that make measurement is the same thing as a recognition system. For examples, smell recognition, sounds recognition, images recognition, touch recognition, and taste recognition. Only these systems can collapse a wave functions.

The physicists here can spank my Girly ass if I'm wrong, but I think even the founding father of the participatory universe, John Archibald Wheeler himself, doesn't require consciousness to collapse the wave function, only interaction. Rocks do it all the time. In Robert Lanza's recent theory of biocentrism, consciousness is necessary. Lanza is a brilliant stem cell researcher, and biocentrism is provocative, but he's no John Archibald Wheeler.

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16-01-2016, 05:55 PM
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The definition of Quantum terms such as wavefu nctions and Matrix mechanic progressed through many stages. For instance, Erwin chroedinger original viewed was the election's wavefunctions as its charge density smeared across the field. Where as Max Born reinterpreted it as the election's probability density distributed across the field.
Look at it this way in real life situation. An electron is a particle if and only if you sees one or measures one. Observing, seeing, sensing(sensory perception), measuring, detecting, checking on it's wavefunctions would turns that wave into an electron. So the electron only exist as particles during the time of live observation/measurement. But if you pulls the tool of measurement out the electron is no longer a particle but an evolving wave. What is a tool of measurement here? It could be a metal probe like in an electronic multimeter. The tip of the probe touches a wavefunctions of the electron. It may or may not collapses that wavefunctions until the signal go to the meter and into the digital display. Again at that display no one knows what on the display, therefore the wavefunctions has not collapse yet. Another probe need to be there, that is the experimenter,s eyes or ears. Again the wavefunctions does not collapses yet until the signal reaches the experimenter brain. Once the signal gets to brain, that is if there is a signal entering the brain otherwise no one. If the signal gets into the brain the brain system will decode the signal and wavefunctions will collapses. What the problem here? The problem is to get 100 percent certainty that the tool tip hit or interact with the thing you are measuring your recognition is required. Or else who knows. This is not just a perception of an electron as a wave or as a particle. Is a chair really a chair? With the tool tip as the palm of your hands and nothing else. You would stumble around just to find it. Only when you touch or having the sensation of touching a chair. But before that sensation the chair is part of a wave smear/scramble across the room. The room is smear across the house. The house is smear across the block. And so on.
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17-01-2016, 12:03 AM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
(16-01-2016 05:55 PM)5senses Wrote:  The definition of Quantum terms such as wavefu nctions and Matrix mechanic progressed through many stages. For instance, Erwin chroedinger original viewed was the election's wavefunctions as its charge density smeared across the field. Where as Max Born reinterpreted it as the election's probability density distributed across the field.
Look at it this way in real life situation. An electron is a particle if and only if you sees one or measures one. Observing, seeing, sensing(sensory perception), measuring, detecting, checking on it's wavefunctions would turns that wave into an electron. So the electron only exist as particles during the time of live observation/measurement. But if you pulls the tool of measurement out the electron is no longer a particle but an evolving wave. What is a tool of measurement here? It could be a metal probe like in an electronic multimeter. The tip of the probe touches a wavefunctions of the electron. It may or may not collapses that wavefunctions until the signal go to the meter and into the digital display. Again at that display no one knows what on the display, therefore the wavefunctions has not collapse yet. Another probe need to be there, that is the experimenter,s eyes or ears. Again the wavefunctions does not collapses yet until the signal reaches the experimenter brain. Once the signal gets to brain, that is if there is a signal entering the brain otherwise no one. If the signal gets into the brain the brain system will decode the signal and wavefunctions will collapses. What the problem here? The problem is to get 100 percent certainty that the tool tip hit or interact with the thing you are measuring your recognition is required. Or else who knows. This is not just a perception of an electron as a wave or as a particle. Is a chair really a chair? With the tool tip as the palm of your hands and nothing else. You would stumble around just to find it. Only when you touch or having the sensation of touching a chair. But before that sensation the chair is part of a wave smear/scramble across the room. The room is smear across the house. The house is smear across the block. And so on.

That is a jumble of misunderstood concepts mixing scales many orders of magnitude apart.

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17-01-2016, 01:47 AM
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(16-01-2016 05:55 PM)5senses Wrote:  The definition of Quantum terms such as wavefu nctions and Matrix mechanic progressed through many stages. For instance, Erwin chroedinger original viewed was the election's wavefunctions as its charge density smeared across the field. Where as Max Born reinterpreted it as the election's probability density distributed across the field.
Look at it this way in real life situation. An electron is a particle if and only if you sees one or measures one. Observing, seeing, sensing(sensory perception), measuring, detecting, checking on it's wavefunctions would turns that wave into an electron. So the electron only exist as particles during the time of live observation/measurement. But if you pulls the tool of measurement out the electron is no longer a particle but an evolving wave. What is a tool of measurement here? It could be a metal probe like in an electronic multimeter. The tip of the probe touches a wavefunctions of the electron. It may or may not collapses that wavefunctions until the signal go to the meter and into the digital display. Again at that display no one knows what on the display, therefore the wavefunctions has not collapse yet. Another probe need to be there, that is the experimenter,s eyes or ears. Again the wavefunctions does not collapses yet until the signal reaches the experimenter brain. Once the signal gets to brain, that is if there is a signal entering the brain otherwise no one. If the signal gets into the brain the brain system will decode the signal and wavefunctions will collapses. What the problem here? The problem is to get 100 percent certainty that the tool tip hit or interact with the thing you are measuring your recognition is required. Or else who knows. This is not just a perception of an electron as a wave or as a particle. Is a chair really a chair? With the tool tip as the palm of your hands and nothing else. You would stumble around just to find it. Only when you touch or having the sensation of touching a chair. But before that sensation the chair is part of a wave smear/scramble across the room. The room is smear across the house. The house is smear across the block. And so on.

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17-01-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
Some people I know who are still Christians think that I left "God" for childish reasons, such as my mom's back not getting healed or because I was suppressed by ex husband, etc.
I left my last church because the pastor was literally obsessed with me getting pregnant and home bound; he'd preach messages and have other speakers come to preach about the "enormous" differences between men and women. It was sick.
I left the church because of that, but I left Christianity and any faith in God two years later when I finally gave myself permission to use logic and look at things realistically.
It's scary what the fear of hell can do to your logic, but I'm past that now. Smile
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17-01-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
(05-11-2013 08:32 PM)Crimson Flyboy Wrote:  I was a Catholic. The more I learned about Catholicism, the less faith I had. Reading the bible especially took me away from the faith, it'll do that.

That's true. Most atheists have read the Bible at least once.
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18-01-2016, 03:41 PM
RE: Atheism and the Conversion Factors
What still words salad? !!!

The probability of finding a chair in a room is 0 given the fact that all your senses are completely isolated from the room. Completely isolated means to reduce the sensitivity to zero. Use a very strong tranquilizer or a very thick glove. Your brain will still be operating or creating consciousness. Now I ask does the mind know or have knowledge about the table in the room? The answer is no. How the he'll will its know? A chair is just a concept in a brain. Since the mind does not know the chair is in the room or not the actual chair is said to be entangled with the imaginary chair inside the brain. The void between the imaginary and the actual chair is called the event horizon. The void could be millions of miles apart or no distance at all. You see l am not looking for the actual or the imaginary chair. What l am looking for is the real chair. The one that I can touch, taste, smell, see, and hear. And without the tool tip, the imaginary chair, and the actual chair comes together at the event horizon no one will ever know where is the real chair is. Here you are just part of this 3 way entanglement. In order to disentangle or un scramble from the random mess you have to pull in the tool tip. The tool tip maybe the tip of the finger, the eyes, the nose, the toung, or the ear. Without that you are really operating in the dark. There is no address and post sign. But since you have all those tools you takes it for granted. Everything and eveverywhere that you look and feel it automatically unscramble for you. You look and look there is no objective can be made. So who and what is doing the scrambling?
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