Atheism as a 'religion'
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22-09-2014, 04:07 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 09:09 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Except that reason requires God. Drinking Beverage
Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.

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22-09-2014, 04:24 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 04:07 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 09:09 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Except that reason requires God. Drinking Beverage
Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.

I'm not diddo, but I can certainly answer for him.

Reason requires God because reason requires God.

Reason requires God;
therefore, reason requires God.

QED.

What more could you possibly want in a, ahem, "proof"?

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22-09-2014, 04:31 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 03:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 10:23 AM)Chas Wrote:  No, it doesn't.

Pretty sure it does. And there's at least one atheist who doesn't want the tax break. AMERICAN ATHEISTS V. SHULMAN

The IRS granted American Atheists 501©(3) charitable status as a religious organization because the IRS is run by fucking pricks. They didn't like the lawsuit against the differential treatment that allows religions to skate on proving their charitable status (among other benefits) so they granted the applied for 501©(3) status to that one organization, calling it religious.

The IRS has not recognized atheism as "a religion".

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22-09-2014, 05:39 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 09:09 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 09:07 AM)Chas Wrote:  And with reason, one is compelled to dismiss religion.

Except that reason requires God. Drinking Beverage

The one thing that belief ergo blind faith HAS NO NEED for is reason, it then follows that your premise is wrong.

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22-09-2014, 05:41 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 04:07 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 09:09 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Except that reason requires God. Drinking Beverage
Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.


1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?
2. Because "omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys" aren't God.

Truth seeker.
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22-09-2014, 06:04 PM (This post was last modified: 22-09-2014 06:34 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 05:41 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?

Only as banal tautologies. Everything else is nuanced.

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22-09-2014, 06:25 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 05:41 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 04:07 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.


1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?
2. Because "omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys" aren't God.
You did not answer my first question, and answering my second question only has meaning in the context of a comparison to your answer to my first question (which you did not give).

Please actually give an answer to my first question.

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22-09-2014, 06:39 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 05:41 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 04:07 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.


1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?
2. Because "omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys" aren't God.

1. Define absolute truth.
2. How do you know?

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22-09-2014, 06:44 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 06:39 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 05:41 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?

1. Define absolute truth.

Good luck with that one. This guy's dumb as dirt when it comes to formal systems. Wouldn't know one if it was kicking him in the balls.

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22-09-2014, 07:35 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(22-09-2014 06:39 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 05:41 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?
2. Because "omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys" aren't God.

1. Define absolute truth.
2. How do you know?

1. Truth that is absolute
2. By definition. If they were perfect beings, they would not be omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys, they would be God.

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