Atheism as a 'religion'
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23-09-2014, 11:26 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:19 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 08:13 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Replace fuzzy Green Monkey with God, and what changes the conclusion of that argument?

God is a perfect being, omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys are not.

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23-09-2014, 11:32 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:26 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:19 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  God is a perfect being, omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys are not.

And you are a boring, repetitive, unimaginative, unintelligent troll. Drinking Beverage

I don't care about any of that. I care about what's true.

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23-09-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:32 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  I don't care about any of that. I care about what's true.
If you cared about what is true you would have answered my question.

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23-09-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:32 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:26 AM)Chas Wrote:  And you are a boring, repetitive, unimaginative, unintelligent troll. Drinking Beverage

I don't care about any of that. I care about what's true.

No, you don't. All you care about is trolling.

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23-09-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:33 AM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:32 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  I don't care about any of that. I care about what's true.
If you cared about what is true you would have answered my question.

What question?

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23-09-2014, 11:37 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:35 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:33 AM)Adrianime Wrote:  If you cared about what is true you would have answered my question.

What question?

(22-09-2014 04:07 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 09:09 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Except that reason requires God. Drinking Beverage
Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.

(22-09-2014 06:25 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 05:41 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  1. Does absolute truth exist, according to your worldview?
2. Because "omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys" aren't God.
You did not answer my first question, and answering my second question only has meaning in the context of a comparison to your answer to my first question (which you did not give).

Please actually give an answer to my first question.

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23-09-2014, 11:39 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:37 AM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:35 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  What question?

(22-09-2014 04:07 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  Why is this a true statement?

How is this claim any different than the claim, "Reason requires omnipotent invisible fuzzy green monkeys"?

Please answer both questions.

(22-09-2014 06:25 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  You did not answer my first question, and answering my second question only has meaning in the context of a comparison to your answer to my first question (which you did not give).

Please actually give an answer to my first question.

Reason presupposes truth. Truth presupposes God because without an absolute knower, there could be no truth.

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23-09-2014, 11:50 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:39 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Reason presupposes truth. Truth presupposes God because without an absolute knower, there could be no truth.
This (bolded above) is what is known as an unfounded assertion.

Let me ask you a question:
Given your worldview, do you have any reason to deny the possibility that instead of one distinct perfect being who is the absolute knower, there are instead a group of, say 10, distinct perfect beings who are all absolute knowers?

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23-09-2014, 11:59 AM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:50 AM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:39 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Reason presupposes truth. Truth presupposes God because without an absolute knower, there could be no truth.
This (bolded above) is what is known as an unfounded assertion.

Let me ask you a question:
Given your worldview, do you have any reason to deny the possibility that instead of one distinct perfect being who is the absolute knower, there are instead a group of, say 10, distinct perfect beings who are all absolute knowers?

Everyone's perception of realitty is different. We have no way of knowing whose version of reality is correct. Therefore, we would need an absolute knower in order to know anything.

No. There can only be one perfect being. Otherwise they would destroy themselves (and everything else)

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23-09-2014, 12:04 PM
RE: Atheism as a 'religion'
(23-09-2014 11:59 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 11:50 AM)Adrianime Wrote:  Let me ask you a question:
Given your worldview, do you have any reason to deny the possibility that instead of one distinct perfect being who is the absolute knower, there are instead a group of, say 10, distinct perfect beings who are all absolute knowers?
No. There can only be one perfect being. Otherwise they would destroy themselves (and everything else)
Uhmm, why? Aren't you just making up that "rule"/"truth"? Where are you getting this information?

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