Atheism: false vs. True.
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28-10-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
(28-10-2016 06:56 AM)theBorg Wrote:  
(28-10-2016 06:43 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Who created theSatan if not theCreator theBorg? And if theCreator created theUniverse without a plan to create theHell what does that say about theCreator’s omniscience? TheBatman has a higher claim on theReality than theBorg and its fantasies.

The divine omniscience is not magical. The omniscience is connected to the omnipresence. The Creator has created the good angel Lucifer. Then the Lucifer has invented the sin, and became the satan. See the parable: the mother of Adolf Hitler has not murdered the Jews.

Hitler's mother wasn't omniscient.

Define omniscience. Popcorn

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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28-10-2016, 07:01 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
The Borg is Star Trek’s 1984 (Orwell).

Christianity was The Borg for 1500 years. Think of Solzhenitsyn as the Soviet Union’s Galileo.
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28-10-2016, 07:04 AM (This post was last modified: 28-10-2016 07:12 AM by Full Circle.)
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
Trying to get a grip on theBorg.

"Eastern Orthodoxy arose as a distinct branch of Christianity after the 11th-century "Great Schism" between Eastern and Western Christendom. The separation was not sudden. For centuries there had been significant religious, cultural, and political differences between the Eastern and Western churches.

Religiously, they had different views on topics such as the use of images (icons), the nature of the Holy Spirit, and the date on which Easter should be celebrated. Seriously? This is the shit you were fighting about?”

The Catholic Church and EOC excommunicated each other in 1054! Laughat

"Although initially the Eastern and Western Christians shared the same faith, the two traditions began to divide after the seventh Ecumenical Council in 787 CE and is commonly believed to have finally split over the conflict with Rome in the so called Great Schism in 1054.

In particular this happened over the papal claim to supreme authority and the doctrine of the Holy Spirit. The break became final with the failure of the Council of Florence in the fifteenth century.

However, in the minds of most Orthodox, a decisive moment was the sack of Constantinople in 1204 during the (Western Christian) Fourth Crusade. The sacking of Constantinople by the Crusaders eventually led to the loss of this Byzantine capital to the Muslim Ottomans in 1453. This has never been forgotten.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/...ox_1.shtml

I’m beginning to see the problem. It really isn’t about dogma at all, it is about resentment isn’t it theBorg. You and your collective are still holding an 800 year old grudge. Laugh out load

It must drive you crazy to know that the Ayasofya became a mosque in the hands of the Turks and is now a museum and your beloved Constantinople is now Istanbul.

Are those minarets I see?
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28-10-2016, 07:12 AM (This post was last modified: 28-10-2016 07:17 AM by Velvet.)
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
(28-10-2016 06:56 AM)theBorg Wrote:  the mother of Adolf Hitler has not murdered the Jews.

The mother of Adolf Hitler wasn't omnipotent.

Yahweh cannot possibly have created Lucifer without knowing that Lucifer would invent sin, that would mean he made a defective angel, he failed as the angel wasn't exactly the way he was supposed to be.

And if he is not defective, then God created Lucifer only and precisely so that he invent sin.

Even granting that Yahweh would not be omniscient he is still unable (as an omnipotent being) to craft an angel that suddenly goes full retard.

That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.”
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28-10-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
(28-10-2016 04:54 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  It's a simple conclusion that a god should be able to figure out, hell serves absolutely no purpose unless this god is malicious. If so, then this god's purpose is to shove people into hell because it enjoys it.

Such a god; if it is willing to do such horrific things as pointless eternal torture, will certainly do lesser immoral acts such as lying, so your bible is useless at that point.

This god is either:

1. Malicious and everyone is going to hell.
2. Too stupid to understand that pointless suffering is pointless -how would that be called a god?

Hell only makes sense if it's something that MEN created to control people.

A supposedly good god has no use for such a place, unless we redefine good to mean pointless torture of sentient beings.

Emphasis Mine. I saw through the hell myth when I was seven years old. It was obvious that it was a man-made concept designed to frighten people into servile compliance.

Regardless of who actually created such a place, if a god has the power to release everyone from hell and fails to do so, that god is evil. If it leaves even one person in hell for eternity, that god is infinitely evil.

Therefore, apparently theBorg is willfully worshipping an infinitely evil god and is trying to cajole us into following him in the worship of infinite evil.
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28-10-2016, 09:40 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
To quote Robert Ingersoll:

"If Hell were real, each inhabitant would be a shining example that god has failed."

Help for the living. Hope for the dead. ~ R.G. Ingersoll

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28-10-2016, 09:43 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.



That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.”
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28-10-2016, 10:18 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
(28-10-2016 05:46 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Prior to Creation there was no time.

Facepalm Facepalm Facepalm

So, what was north of the north pole again?

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28-10-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
(28-10-2016 10:18 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(28-10-2016 05:46 AM)theBorg Wrote:  Prior to Creation there was no time.

Facepalm Facepalm Facepalm

So, what was north of the north pole again?

Suppose a clock is showing 10.00.
Suppose the Creation was at 9.00. So, one is sure, what this clock has never shown the 8.00. The 8.00 is prior to Creation. Capisce?

Smartass
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28-10-2016, 11:09 AM
RE: Atheism: false vs. True.
(28-10-2016 09:40 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  To quote Robert Ingersoll:

"If Hell were real, each inhabitant would be a shining example that god has failed."

A rebel. All will come to the End. Even the sinful rebellion. Look:

Quote:That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:10,11 KJV
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