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30-12-2014, 09:36 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 08:27 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(30-12-2014 08:23 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Despite my "lack of belief" I do not consider myself to be an atheist.

I don't dwell on lacking belief in any theist claims, why would I bother.

I also don't assume science will answer the question of existence, nor look to it to guide my philosophy on anything. What is proven, or not falsified holds no sway on defining my position.

Those who do seem use science are addressing creationists and then take it that step further and assume that existence will be accounted for by science.(i.e philosophical naturalism). This is an assumption with no basis beyond assumption.

Is anyone who holds this position able to rationalise it beyond the standard canned arguments, which convince only the converted?

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30-12-2014, 09:37 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 09:14 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Evolution discounts creationism, nothing more.

Evolution is a very functional and working bit of theory though, wouldn't you say

(30-12-2014 09:14 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Without the ability to account for cause and affects

Accounting for 'cause and effect'? That's physics, isn't it? Consider

(30-12-2014 09:14 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Basing a view on what we cannot account for doesn't say much does it?

Which view am I basing things on? Hence, what and why should/must it account for anything?

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30-12-2014, 09:39 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 08:43 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  
(30-12-2014 08:39 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Anti-theist and atheist aren't the same thing.

Please clarify who it is that you think has an agenda.

Those who claim to be atheists are anti-theist.




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30-12-2014, 09:52 PM (This post was last modified: 30-12-2014 10:20 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
Every time I see a post from Brownshirt I can't help but laugh my ass off 'cause that's my codeword with Manly for shitting myself. "Girly One come in Manly One. Girly One to Manly One come in. Operation Brownshirt is in effect."

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30-12-2014, 10:16 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
I think this is all about self awareness.

You find it hard to believe that you are aware of the universe.

You can't accept that a product of the universe can be aware of the universe kinda like a liver cell in your body that is aware of onions.

And since you can't accept self awareness, you cling to a fantasy that suits you. Hey man, whatever floats your boat. Just don't vote in my elections. That's all I ask.

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30-12-2014, 10:24 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 09:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Every time I see a post from Brownshirt I can't help but laugh my ass off 'cause that's my codeword with Manly for shitting myself. "Girly One come in Manly One. Girly One to Manly One come in. Operation Brownshirt is in effect."

This happens often enough that you need a codeword? Gasp

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30-12-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 08:43 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Those who claim to be atheists are anti-theist.

1. I do not believe in god.
2. I believe that god does not exist.

If you can't tell the difference between statements 1 and 2 then you need to retake Intro Philosophy.

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30-12-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 10:24 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(30-12-2014 09:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Every time I see a post from Brownshirt I can't help but laugh my ass off 'cause that's my codeword with Manly for shitting myself. "Girly One come in Manly One. Girly One to Manly One come in. Operation Brownshirt is in effect."

This happens often enough that you need a codeword? Gasp

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30-12-2014, 10:32 PM
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(30-12-2014 09:14 PM)Brownshirt Wrote:  Evolution discounts creationism, nothing more.

A theory that successfully predicts the relationship between all life on Earth? You have a very funny definition of nothing.

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30-12-2014, 10:35 PM
RE: Atheism is a position with assumptions...
(30-12-2014 09:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Every time I see a post from Brownshirt I can't help but laugh my ass off 'cause that's my codeword with Manly for shitting myself. "Girly One come in Manly One. Girly One to Manly One come in. Operation Brownshirt is in effect."

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