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12-02-2015, 01:56 PM
Atheism is an idea and a belief system
Bet that got a few of you angry didn't it?

Thing is, the past few days I've been refuting claim after claim that atheism is a belief or an idea or "just another religion" etc. Sick of just saying "atheism has no dogma". Is there a better/faster way to refute their claims?

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12-02-2015, 01:58 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
So?
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12-02-2015, 01:58 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
a swift kick to the groin works wonders....

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12-02-2015, 02:01 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
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While, in a way, I s'pose it could be said that atheism is a belief. TO lump it into the same camp as theistic belief is poor use of language.

As for 'It's just another religion." and all the "." and other 'wave inverted' type signs that go along with such saying, if that's the case.... you should ask the poser of said comment things such as,

"Okay... it's a religion... What are its services?"

Basically... ask them to try and show where any of th trappings that an organized religion has are that should, therefore, exist if atheism were another religion.

Or... the above posters method is quick, simple though effects may vary. Tongue

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12-02-2015, 02:02 PM
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Why take the bait? People like that need some kind of "us against them" altercation so they can say "See, it really is a religion!"

Tell them you'd rather talk to someone who has something new to say.

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12-02-2015, 02:07 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
I think it's a vacuous assertion, it's probably best to respond with a quip like- Atheism demands evidence, Christianity demands blind belief. Now what?

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12-02-2015, 02:11 PM
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You know how you can tell that atheism isn't a religion???

Because if you give me money (a great idea, btw) -- you don't get to deduct it from your taxes......


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12-02-2015, 02:28 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
Your mom is an idea and a belief system.
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12-02-2015, 02:58 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
(12-02-2015 01:56 PM)SunnyD1 Wrote:  Thing is, the past few days I've been refuting claim after claim that atheism is a belief or an idea or "just another religion" etc. Sick of just saying "atheism has no dogma". Is there a better/faster way to refute their claims?
It's probably a waste of time trying to refute their claims, but ...
Just ask them what it is that they think we believe and then address each of those. e.g.
Claim: Atheists believe that there is no higher power.
Response: There is no requirement for atheists to support this claim, to fit the definition of atheist one must merely lack a belief in gods.

Claim: Atheists believe that we are evolved primates.
Response: There is no requirement for atheists to support this claim, to fit the definition of atheist one must merely lack a belief in gods.

Claim: Atheists believe in methodological naturalism and philosophical materialism.
Response: There is no requirement for atheists to support this claim, to fit the definition of atheist one must merely lack a belief in gods.

Claim: Atheists believe that when you die you cease to exist.
Response: There is no requirement for atheists to support this claim, to fit the definition of atheist one must merely lack a belief in gods.

Claim: Atheists believe that they can personally decide what is right and what is wrong. That they are free to change their personal morals as it suits them at the time.
Response: There is no requirement for atheists to support this claim, to fit the definition of atheist one must merely lack a belief in gods.

And so on, and so forth...
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12-02-2015, 03:05 PM
RE: Atheism is an idea and a belief system
I would just say that no religion is the default. You then learn a philosophy/religion from your parents, community, library or TV evangelist.

Born in the United States, I might compare it to English being my default language. Other languages would come after, again from parents or community.

The son of a colleague was lucky and grew up with two default languages (English and Chinese). I was in my colleague’s office when his five year old called. Yang was speaking mostly Chinese with interspersed “5:15”, “2:30” and other times in English and I must have looked puzzled. His son was practicing telling time with one of those toy clocks and called his father for help. Damn cute.
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