Atheistic Derangement: The Shit Does Happen
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14-12-2014, 06:33 PM
RE: Atheistic Derangement: The Shit Does Happen
(14-12-2014 06:25 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  I was so wrong. I guess I'll go jump off a cliff.

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14-12-2014, 06:34 PM
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This religocrite doesn't deserve a mantle.

Fuck off and all praise be to Allah!
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14-12-2014, 06:51 PM
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(14-12-2014 06:16 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  ...bare with me.

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I don't know you well enough for that, gwg. But if you and Gordon want to go ahead, hey - knock yourselves out.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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14-12-2014, 07:32 PM
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(14-12-2014 06:16 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  Well actually.... Unsure I have my own religion too, wanna join?

As I strive to understand how people can believe in astonishing things with little credible evidence, I have come up with a scenario...I call it the church of the purple unicorn...bare with me..

Lets say i approach you, we have been friends/co-workers for a long while, and I am visibly excited. I tell you how I was invited to a meeting, a group called CPU, and they showed me some exciting things, and I wanted to invite you to the next meeting. (no it isnt AMWAY ) So I convince you to come, and you meet a nice group of uber friendly people who give you hearty handshakes and beaming smiles. Once all the pleasantries die down, and some food has been demolished, they start telling you about how an archaeologist had discovered an ancient text in a cave, and it described a purple unicorn that flew across the sky, and farted rainbow sprinkles, bestowing wishes for all those who truly believed. he did this until the non believers found him, and killed him, but as the believers stood weeping around his body, it started to glow, and *gasp* rise into the air, and with a whinny and a toss of his tail, he rose into the sky and as he disappeared he said, I will return, and bring you to paradise. These 12 believers were astonished and told everyone the story, they gained followers here and there....people are always drawn to smiles and excitement, and will pretty much believe anything, or pretend to, so they can be part of the group.

Now years later, this secret group has decided to spread the good word to the world, and you can get in on the ground floor! With much fanfare and drama, they whip aside a vibrant purple silk curtain and show you a golden telescope, they reverently beckon you to look into it..."look, and you can see him for yourself"...you look incredulously into it, but alas, dont see anything but the sky. You tell them you dont see anything, they give each other knowing looks and say "ahhh he only shows himself to those who truly believe, think hard about your belief, suspend your doubt, look again" then you get a gathering of folk behind you, slapping you on the back and nodding their heads....you look through the glass again...and even though you dont see anything, you start to think, there must be something to this...maybe I am just not ready yet....but you turn and gasp aloud "oh my unicorn! I see him, and he is glorious!". they all circle you and much merriment happens. They give you a copy of the BOOK OF UNICORN to cherish and study. Be strong, the non believers will question your faith, they are the enemy, and strive to steer you off the course of true enlightenment.

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Now this was totally pulled out of my ( i ) obviously, but there is a valid point I think. Is this how people get sucked into these belief systems? psychologically I mean.. I understand the desire for fellowship, to belong to a group, to be part of something bigger than you....your thoughts? Why do people profess to believe such astonishing things.....with zero proof besides a book and some philosophy of those who were also members of the group? I have always wondered this, I have never felt the need to be in a group, a huge need for belief in something in order to be able to face our basic human fear of death..and the unknown...death will come, and then I will be in final rest as my body rots and my consciousness fails with my last breath...I dont need to clutch a belief of golden roads and condos on the beach in paradise, or 72 virgins if I die as a martyr for Muhammad, or any other reward for believing something that seems so astonishingly hard to believe. The fact that the book is loosely tied to actual historical timelines is just an attempt to make it sound believable.

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14-12-2014, 07:36 PM
RE: Atheistic Derangement: The Shit Does Happen
(14-12-2014 06:51 PM)Thinkerbelle Wrote:  
(14-12-2014 06:16 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  ...bare with me.

<snort>

I don't know you well enough for that, gwg. But if you and Gordon want to go ahead, hey - knock yourselves out.

awwww you won't join? We can make it a "triune" conception Angel

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14-12-2014, 09:04 PM
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Gordian, your accusations are the product of a sick and twisted mind. Treat people as you wish to be treated is fine way to live and you've shown us all how you would like to be treated.

So, I'll call you a sick fuck because dude your mind is a wasted land.

You have a lot of anger and hatred in your heart.
Your god sees all of that and so does Santa so you better fly right. Is this how you treat your fellow man ?
Evil agents of Satan and your average christian are so hard to tell apart these days. Which one are you ?

Given the lies you've spoken so far, I'm not sure I can trust your answer.

The power of Christ compels you ?
Do you feel compelled ?
If not, I guess Christ has no power because he doesn't exist.

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15-12-2014, 12:30 AM
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I think my rating of you pretty much sums up my response to this Egor.
Have a nice day.
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15-12-2014, 12:43 AM
RE: Atheistic Derangement: The Shit Does Happen
(14-12-2014 03:27 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  I don't think stupid describes Gordon accurately, more like egocentric, judgmental, self-serving, quixotic, delusional, sociopathic and bi-polar just to name a few things off the top of my head.

Quote:Edit: I described his wild mood swings to a psychiatric nurse and she suggested that his actions fit with a person with the disorder. Mind you we were just chatting and she never read my interactions with him.

She would be wrong. I don't have bipolar d/o. I don't actually know what's wrong with me. Honestly, I've stopped trying to figure it out. I have a drive in me that I can't explain. It's been there for decades. I have to get the Veridican Gospel of Jesus Christ back into publication. I have to establish the theology of Veridicanism once and for all. And for some reason, I feel compelled to discuss God and Jesus Christ with atheists.

I don't know why, but it seems like it's a very important thing that I do these things.

I don't have delusions of grandeur, and I'm not selling anything. I don't need anything from anyone anymore. There are no Veridicans besides me, because there is no mechanism for membership. A person follows Jesus Christ--they don't follow Veridicanism.

And how could they ever subscribe to it? I've never laid it out clearly. I'm starting to with the website and the forum. But it will be a year, I'm sure. And those two things are secondary. The Gospel must be re-published, and then a book on Veridican theology must be published. I must do that.

It is very hard to put order to spiritual things. God speaks to me, and in a sentence He communicates an encyclopedia. How do I explain that? How do I write that down in a manuscript?

And God's no help. I say, "God should there be a Veridican Magick?"
God says, "You choose. Make it whatever you want. I'll stand behind you. Just write the damn thing and stick to it!"

It's so much easier to be an atheist. You get to just shut it all off. Nothing has to be done, because nothing really matters. There are no souls to preserve. There's no life lessons that don't dissolve in the grave.
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15-12-2014, 01:56 AM (This post was last modified: 15-12-2014 03:11 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Atheistic Derangement: The Shit Does Happen
(15-12-2014 12:43 AM)Gordon Wrote:  And God's no help. I say, "God should there be a Veridican Magick?"
God says, "You choose. Make it whatever you want. I'll stand behind you. Just write the damn thing and stick to it!"

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15-12-2014, 02:04 AM
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I don't speak for anyone but me.

My life is full and in no need of supernatural fantasies. I love deeply and care greatly for those around me. If you don't think that is enough that is your problem not mine. You know nothing about me and yet you have the audacity to try and tell me how to live my life? Pitiful, truly pitiful.

Religious fanaticism in this world has left a wake of blood and misery for thousands of years with the promise of a heavenly paradise. What you and others like you fail to see is that this life, here, now is all there is.

Spending the moments of your life fear mongering lessens all of us. All you have done here is deliver a message of inadequacy through hateful words. So much for leading by example, failing miserably at living up to the very standard you profess to follow.

Pitiful, just pitiful.

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