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03-03-2010, 07:33 AM
RE: Atheists and Man on the Moon:
(03-03-2010 05:00 AM)supermanlives1973 Wrote:  The point is without evolution as an accepted fact, the only alternative is creation. Based on what I know about the bible (I am currently reading over it 'to better understand it'), we are expected to be unquestioning, unthinking automatons. I can't accept that...human beings are FAR MORE than what any religious text would ever give us credit for.

If a person denies evolution, then they deny all other advancements of human ingenuity.

I don't think so. Like I said above, they can selectively deny science, shunning evolution while supporting the rest. And I've never seen a theist who shares your idea of the Bible, but this is a discussion for you and martinb59 rather than me, so I'll back off now.

(03-03-2010 05:41 AM)josephtamis Wrote:  Hi,

The atheist campaign is using the word 'science' to describe their own personal religion: ''atheism' (not science).

Atheism is not a religion. What evidence do you have to support your claim?

Quote:The Marxists used to call their religion 'scientific socialism' - in other words trying to use a physical authority to give credibility to their belief.

Poisoning the well, guilt by association fallacy.

Quote:The 'science' which took people to the moon was developed within the religious framework of the Christian worldview - not atheism.

Lie. Science is not exclusive to Christianity. Even if it were, the results of the experiments could still go against the Bible.

Quote:The mathematics of calculus which took people to the moon was developed by Newton, who was not an atheist, but actually wrote three times as much on his religious beliefs than on his scientific interests.

Appeal to authority fallacy.

Quote:The country of America in the 1960's which put the people there is a mostly religous country.

Argument ad populum.

Quote:And the astronauts who went there were people of a Christian worldview.

Appeal to authority fallacy.

Quote:Unscientific atheism cannot take any credit for getting anyone to the moon.

Irrelevant even if it were true.

Quote:Yes the Russian atheists did later get into space, but they did so only by copying the science developed by Christians.

Lie. The Russians beat us into space, and - again - science is not exclusively Christian.

Do some research. Jeez.

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03-03-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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You just answered a bot, unbeliever. I must say, they are quite well done. Apparently they read the thread's title and google it, then post what they find. If you google a part of what he posted, this site comes up:
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03-03-2010, 08:49 AM
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(03-03-2010 08:44 AM)Nahuel Wrote:  You just answered a bot, unbeliever. I must say, they are quite well done. Apparently they read the thread's title and google it, then post what they find. If you google a part of what he posted, this site comes up:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=32...topic=8056

Ooh, I'm impressed. Had me fooled. I thought martinb59 was calling in reinforcements.

Or maybe it's that guy from Facebook! O_o

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03-03-2010, 08:57 AM
 
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Haha, maybe. His signature gave him away.
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03-03-2010, 03:12 PM
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(03-03-2010 08:57 AM)Nahuel Wrote:  Haha, maybe. His signature gave him away.

Wow, they are getting good.

Although, his other post in child indoctrination was suspiciously off topic.

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14-04-2010, 04:22 AM
 
RE: Atheists and Man on the Moon:
The atheist campaign is using the word 'science' to describe their own personal religion: ''atheism' (not science). The Marxists used to call their religion 'scientific socialism' - in other words trying to use a physical authority to give credibility to their belief. The 'science' which took people to the moon was developed within the religious framework of the Christian worldview - not atheism.

The mathematics of calculus which took people to the moon was developed by Newton, who was not an atheist, but actually wrote three times as much on his religious beliefs than on his scientific interests. The country of America in the 1960's which put the people there is a mostly religous country. And the astronauts who went there were people of a Christian worldview. Unscientific atheism cannot take any credit for getting anyone to the moon. Yes the Russian atheists did later get into space, but they did so only by copying the science developed by Christians.
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14-04-2010, 05:55 AM
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Unimaginative bot is unimaginative.

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16-04-2010, 12:58 PM
RE: Atheists and Man on the Moon:
Is it just me, or are they telling the same things over and over again.
"atheists secretly belief in god, but they hate, him and because of that they deny his existence."
Martin, do you belief in allah but deny him because you hate him and now belief in some made up story because you don´t want to belief in him?

And again you don´t understand the basics of evolution. Such things don´t poof into existence in an instant. They ivolve over millions of years. That´s just the same reasoning like the "because a monkey has never given birth to a human, evolution must be false."

We don´t make up such things like evolution because we hate god, but because there is absolutely no evidence for god but a 2000 year old book (and that´s not really an evidence for me).

Scientists don´t "invent" things like evolution to annoy creationists or to test their faith. It´s simply a proofable fact, supported by an overwhelming majority of scientists all around the globe

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