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10-12-2012, 05:43 AM (This post was last modified: 10-12-2012 10:05 AM by Janus.)
Atheists around world suffer persecution‚ discrimination: report
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According to its survey of some 60 countries‚ the seven where expression of atheist views or defection from the official religion can bring capital punishment are Afghanistan‚ Iran‚ Maldives‚ Mauritania‚ Pakistan‚ Saudi Arabia and Sudan

GENEVA: Atheists and other religious skeptics suffer persecution or discrimination in many parts of the world and in at least seven nations can be executed if their beliefs become known, according to a report issued on Monday.

The study, from the International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU), showed that "unbelievers" in Islamic countries face the most severe - sometimes brutal - treatment at the hands of the state and adherents of the official religion.

But it also points to policies in some European countries and the United States which favor the religious and their organizations and treat atheists and humanists as outsiders.

The report, "Freedom of Thought 2012", said "there are laws that deny atheists' right to exist, curtail their freedom of belief and expression, revoke their right to citizenship, restrict their right to marry."

Other laws "obstruct their access to public education, prohibit them from holding public office, prevent them from working for the state, criminalize their criticism of religion, and execute them for leaving the religion of their parents."

The report was welcomed by Heiner Bielefeldt, United Nations special rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief, who said in a brief introduction there was little awareness that atheists were covered by global human rights agreements.

The IHEU - which links over 120 humanist, atheist and secular organizations in more than 40 countries - said it was issuing the report to mark the U.N.'s Human Rights Day on Monday.

According to its survey of some 60 countries, the seven where expression of atheist views or defection from the official religion can bring capital punishment are Afghanistan, Iran, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Sudan.

The 70-page report lists no recent cases of actual execution for "atheism" -- but researchers say the offence is often subsumed into other charges.

In a range of other countries - such as Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Kuwait and Jordan - publication of atheist or humanist views on religion are totally banned or strictly limited under laws prohibiting "blasphemy".

In many of these countries, and others like Malaysia, citizens have to register as adherents of a small number officially-recognized religions -- which normally include no more than Christianity and Judaism as well as Islam.

Atheists and humanists are thereby forced to lie to obtain their official documents without which it is impossible to go to university, receive medical treatment, travel abroad or drive.

In Europe, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin and North America, countries which identify themselves secular give privileges to or favor Christian churches in providing education and other public services, the IHEU said.

In Greece and Russia, the Orthodox Church is fiercely protected from criticism and is given pride of place on state occasions, while in Britain bishops of the Church of England have automatic seats in the upper house of parliament.

While freedom of religion and speech is protected in the United States, the report said, a social and political climate prevails "in which atheists and the non-religious are made to feel like lesser Americans, or non-Americans."

In at least seven U.S. states, constitutional provisions are in place that bar atheists from public office and one state, Arkansas, has a law that bars an atheist from testifying as a witness at a trial, the report said.

http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/fullNew...sID=357271

Together with the persecution of standard citizens and foreigners under, and by, the Patriot Act, FISA, and the TSA, that is reason enough for me to NOT visit the USA again (used to 4 to 8 times a year) since 2003.

Reason enough for me and for hundreds of thousands of non-US citizens.

Just think how much money those didn't, and won't, spend in the US! American hysteria has been, and still is, shooting itself royally in the foot.
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10-12-2012, 09:59 AM
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I guess that makes us the chosen ones?

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10-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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It irks me when I see people, Christians in the US who've never had a care, have on their signature I believe in Jesus Christ my fuck buddy and I'm not afraid to show it.


What do you have to be afraid of? : / It's amazing how you can't hold office in some states yet what, 30% of the country doesn't believe anymore?

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10-12-2012, 05:33 PM
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I was really missing the link to the report itself....here it is for those who felt the same: http://www.iheu.org/files/IHEU%20Freedom...202012.pdf
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10-12-2012, 05:49 PM
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Strange how a country that was founded on the separation of church and state has such unconstitutional treatment of having just that...

I guess an Atheist in a jury would not be a jury of his own peers. Not sure what sense that makes.
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10-12-2012, 06:37 PM
Atheists around world suffer persecution‚ discrimination: report
I'm so tired about hearing about the poor persecuted atheists. What the fuck? Maybe there's pockets here and there, but I think it's way overblown. Our society is much more in favor of non-religious over religious. The only place where this maybe less true is in politics, and even then the tide is turning. Republicans did NOT nominate Fundie Rick Perry, and Americans did NOT elect Mormon Romney.

Having been both, yes, I'm an expert on the matter. Fucking quit yer whining, ya fucking heathen pussies.

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11-12-2012, 03:39 AM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2012 04:35 AM by Janus.)
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(10-12-2012 06:37 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  Americans did NOT elect Mormon Romney.

By a hairs' breadth!
Half of American voters wanted a Mormon 'bishop', who wears magic underwear and reveres a polygamous two bit hustler messiah, to be their president...

And they DID elect idiot robber baron Dubya. Twice!

And they DID take raving lunatic 'candidates' like Perry, Santorum, Cain, Bachmann, and Palin dead serious...

So what impression do you think the world gets from a US where apparently a bunch of idiots – all of which invoke an invisible sky daddy – is royally cheered on to fight over the White House. Every 4 years again.
It's pathetic.
And that – not to mention its international attitude and a 15 TRILLION deficit – is supposed to be an example for the rest of the world...? Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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11-12-2012, 04:29 AM
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(10-12-2012 05:33 PM)shiranl Wrote:  I was really missing the link to the report itself....here it is for those who felt the same: http://www.iheu.org/files/IHEU%20Freedom...202012.pdf
Cheers, shirani! Appreciate it.
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11-12-2012, 04:33 AM
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(10-12-2012 04:49 PM)Red Tornado Wrote:  It irks me when I see people, Christians in the US who've never had a care, have on their signature I believe in Jesus Christ my fuck buddy and I'm not afraid to show it.

What do you have to be afraid of? : / It's amazing how you can't hold office in some states yet what, 30% of the country doesn't believe anymore?
30% don't associate themselves with organized religion.
A number of this 30% still actually believe in God, they just don't care enough to give it any real second thought.

The % of actual atheists is still relatively low.
But I assume if it's anything like the general world trend, the percentage is higher in young people so it's only a matter of time.
Give it 50years.

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11-12-2012, 04:48 AM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2012 05:02 AM by Janus.)
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(11-12-2012 04:33 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(10-12-2012 04:49 PM)Red Tornado Wrote:  It irks me when I see people, Christians in the US who've never had a care, have on their signature I believe in Jesus Christ my fuck buddy and I'm not afraid to show it.

What do you have to be afraid of? : / It's amazing how you can't hold office in some states yet what, 30% of the country doesn't believe anymore?
30% don't associate themselves with organized religion.
A number of this 30% still actually believe in God, they just don't care enough to give it any real second thought.

The % of actual atheists is still relatively low.
But I assume if it's anything like the general world trend, the percentage is higher in young people so it's only a matter of time.
Give it 50years.


If the past 10,000 years are any indication people will always be looking for messiahs and gurus to follow blindly. Have you seen the growth of the membership of e.g. the 'Church of Scientology'? And a couple hundred other whacky denominations (a.k.a. sects, or cults)?
And that's just in the US. Worldwide Islam is growing fast. As is the Pentecost.
There is no indication at all that people, in general, are turning away from religion. Sure, some of us may define some of it as sports fanaticism, or political fanaticism, but that's just Newspeak for religion.

And another hurdle on the road to atheism are the numbers. Atheism grows in affluent, educated societies. Childbirth rates drop – dramatically – in affluent, educated societies.
In French: religious people fuck like rabbits.
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