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27-06-2013, 12:01 AM
RE: Atheists do not have a clue!
Did somebody say troll?




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27-06-2013, 12:36 AM
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(26-06-2013 07:47 PM)theword Wrote:  Why do atheists take everything out of context and think if Christians pray for something it is God's obligation to oblige?

You again?

Don't you have homework to do or something?

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27-06-2013, 02:40 AM
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(27-06-2013 12:36 AM)Sloane Wrote:  
(26-06-2013 07:47 PM)theword Wrote:  Why do atheists take everything out of context and think if Christians pray for something it is God's obligation to oblige?

You again?

Don't you have homework to do or something?

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27-06-2013, 02:46 AM
RE: Atheists do not have a clue!
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27-06-2013, 02:51 AM
RE: Atheists do not have a clue!
(26-06-2013 07:47 PM)theword Wrote:  Why do atheists take everything out of context and think if Christians pray for something it is God's obligation to oblige?

Because God's track record for answering prayers is identical to random chance, making God a superfluous factor in the equation. Drinking Beverage

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27-06-2013, 09:56 AM
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(26-06-2013 07:47 PM)theword Wrote:  Why do atheists take everything out of context and think if Christians pray for something it is God's obligation to oblige?
No, that's not the one and only thing that atheists have in common. The real one and only thing is a lack of belief in a god or gods. Given that one thing, atheists certainly don't think a non-existent being has any obligation whatsoever.

However, from the Christian perspective, what's the point of prayer? It's to get results - i.e., a response from God. Without that, prayer has no meaning at all. So it seems to me a Christian should believe God has an "obligation to oblige" at least with some prayers. Otherwise, why pray?

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27-06-2013, 10:45 AM
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(26-06-2013 07:47 PM)theword Wrote:  Why do atheists take everything out of context and think if Christians pray for something it is God's obligation to oblige?

Because "ask and ye shall receive" doesn't include any qualifiers such as "but only if it's okay with God". Furthermore, there are other verses in the bible ("even the hairs of your head are numbered") that make it seem that a Christian's concerns are incredibly important to God and will get proper attention. That's putting it into context, not out of it. Only by taking such a phrase out of context ("doesn't your father in heaven know how to give better gifts than even you?") could it possibly sound as if God doesn't want to grant your requests.

But more importantly, if God is not "obligated to oblige" our requests, why do you think Christians pray at all? You don't get to know God any better if the conversation is one-sided, and it isn't for your growth if it's disappointing. Your statement is clearly biased, and you'd recognize the bias if it came from a Muslim defending Allah's apparent lack of response with the same argument that you've given.

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27-06-2013, 10:51 AM
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(26-06-2013 07:47 PM)theword Wrote:  Why do atheists take everything out of context and think if Christians pray for something it is God's obligation to oblige?

Actually the real question is : "why do people who pray think they have to remind an omniscient being about what she already knows, she is already going to do" ?
Is she forgetful ?

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27-06-2013, 11:11 AM
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(27-06-2013 10:45 AM)Starcrash Wrote:  Your statement is clearly biased, and you'd recognize the bias if it came from a Muslim defending Allah's apparent lack of response with the same argument that you've given.

..... he gave an argument?

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27-06-2013, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 27-06-2013 04:58 PM by fstratzero.)
RE: Atheists do not have a clue!
I think it's funny that believers always come on here with the intention to educate us on religion. Perhaps for some atheists it can be interesting, but for me after being in the faith I know what that life style entails.

Yes people pray in order to get god to change their circumstances. Especially when they are desperate.

However believers do think on some level the stronger their faith the more things god will help them with.

"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." (Matthew 21:22)
"Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them." (Mark 11:24)

For many christians personal perception, interpretation, and feelings are 9/10ths of what they think god will do or not do.

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