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02-08-2015, 07:30 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
I'm not very optimistic about those numbers:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling...U645de.pdf page 6 ----- Wrote:TREND: (If Democrat or Democratic Leaner) If the Democratic primary for President were
being held today, and the candidates were Joe Biden, Lincoln Chafee, Hillary Clinton,
Martin O'Malley, Bernie Sanders, and Jim Webb, for whom would you vote?
(Trend information is available upon request back through May 2013)

Jan 21, 2014:
    Sanders- N/A
    Clinton- 65%

Nov 26, 2014:
    Sanders- 4%
    Clinton- 57%

Jul 30, 2015:
    Sanders- 17%
    Clinton- 55%

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02-08-2015, 07:32 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
I see Clinton as also a corporate tool to keep the trend of turning USA into an oligarchy. Corporations already have more rights than people. Sanders is for people not pieces of paper. I'd still take Clinton over any republican but would probably end up voting for Jill Stein over her anyway. I don't like voting for someone I don't like just because they are the lesser of two evils.
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02-08-2015, 07:35 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
I took a political affiliation poll and sided 97% with the Green party. I'll have to check out the info on Jill Stein. I've never even heard of her.

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02-08-2015, 07:51 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
(02-08-2015 07:35 PM)cactus Wrote:  I took a political affiliation poll and sided 97% with the Green party. I'll have to check out the info on Jill Stein. I've never even heard of her.

Jill Stein ran for president for the Green Party last time. I didn't vote for her then only because she wasn't on my state ballot. At the time I was living in Wyoming and there were only 5 choices. I also align with the green party. In fact if people actually voted for the party they are closest aligned to Green party would win most elections. As things stand now they don't stand a chance though. Sanders falls pretty well in line with the Green party also.
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02-08-2015, 07:55 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
Different polls do show different things depending on what specifically is asked, who is asked, what the options are, even who is doing the asking. Regardless your quoted poll still seems pretty promising to me. The primaries aren't even happening for more than 11 more months. As much as the Bernie Sanders movement has grown in the past 3 weeks, what can happen in 11 months? A lot of people don't even know who he is yet. A person has to be living in a cave to not know who Hillary Clinton is. She had a huge head start but Sanders is running the better race. He is more than capable of passing her.


(02-08-2015 07:30 PM)cactus Wrote:  I'm not very optimistic about those numbers:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling...U645de.pdf page 6 ----- Wrote:TREND: (If Democrat or Democratic Leaner) If the Democratic primary for President were
being held today, and the candidates were Joe Biden, Lincoln Chafee, Hillary Clinton,
Martin O'Malley, Bernie Sanders, and Jim Webb, for whom would you vote?
(Trend information is available upon request back through May 2013)

Jan 21, 2014:
    Sanders- N/A
    Clinton- 65%

Nov 26, 2014:
    Sanders- 4%
    Clinton- 57%

Jul 30, 2015:
    Sanders- 17%
    Clinton- 55%
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02-08-2015, 08:03 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
Sanders is to the Dems what Trump is to the GOP--a distraction with no chance of winning.
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02-08-2015, 08:11 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
(02-08-2015 08:03 PM)BryanS Wrote:  Sanders is to the Dems what Trump is to the GOP--a distraction with no chance of winning.

Really a long serving Senator with a track record of progressive accomplishments is the same as a blowhard who is just using an election as an ego stroke?

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02-08-2015, 08:12 PM
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02-08-2015, 08:16 PM
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My wife and I have met Bernie. One of our neighbors worked for him. He is as close to the real deal as they come. He is an unapologetic socialist, but he is truly for the people, not just a socialist for the sake of socialism. I get the feeling this is what is resonating with at least some of the people. While I don't think he is electable, it is refreshing to hear his message. I have given money to both his and Hillary's campaign. My big thing now about the next election is supreme court justices. We can not have any more theocrats/dominionists on the supreme court. Period. So if Hillary is the most electable, she has my vote.

I don't completely agree with all of Bernie's views. As a chemist, I am familiar with the pharmaceutical companies that he has railed against. I don't think he understands the handicap of drug companies that have 17 year drug patents and then the profits are undercut by generics. When a blockbuster drug is coming off patent, if there is no new drug(s) in the pipeline, thousands of people are laid off in anticipation of the drug coming off patent. What if Coca Cola had to come up with a product equally as successful as Coke every 17 years?
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02-08-2015, 08:18 PM
RE: Atheists for Bernie Sanders
(02-08-2015 08:03 PM)BryanS Wrote:  Sanders is to the Dems what Trump is to the GOP--a distraction with no chance of winning.
I wish you were right about Trump but he is more likely than most to win the republican nomination.
I'm glad that you are wrong about Bernie Sanders.
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