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02-08-2015, 06:31 AM
Athiesm is illogical
Reasoning:
Universe - many billions of years old
Earth - much less so
Planets - millions if not billions
advanced tech on Earth - a few years
possibility of advanced tech on other planets - 99.999999%
possibility of runaway advancement beyond what we know as tech - highly likely
possibility of inorganic beings - no way of knowing as we are no where near that state of "evolution"
Probability we are the most advanced entities in the universe - infinitesimally small
Possible risk in assuming we are the most advanced entities in the universe - potentially catastrophic
God (understood as a higher being) - highly logical
Our understanding of God - work in progress for many
Deniers of God - nieve[/font]
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02-08-2015, 07:27 AM
RE: Athiesm is illogical
First, learn how logic works. Then write posts about things you think are illogical. Thumbsup

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02-08-2015, 07:39 AM
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@Brandenburg

You might want to precise what is a «higher being». Its not in my nature to kneel before Zod. While your at it you might want to precise what's an «inorganic being». I am not Borg and not to hot on becoming one.
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02-08-2015, 07:41 AM
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(02-08-2015 06:31 AM)Brandenburg Wrote:  Reasoning:
Universe - many billions of years old
Earth - much less so
Planets - millions if not billions
advanced tech on Earth - a few years

OK....

Quote:possibility of advanced tech on other planets - 99.999999%
possibility of runaway advancement beyond what we know as tech - highly likely
possibility of inorganic beings - no way of knowing as we are no where near that state of "evolution"
Probability we are the most advanced entities in the universe - infinitesimally small
Possible risk in assuming we are the most advanced entities in the universe - potentially catastrophic

Not sure what you are basing those estimates on other than there possibly being many worlds capable of supporting life. Jumping from possible to "99.999999%", "highly likely", "inorganic beings", etc appears to be pulled straight out of your ass.

Quote:God (understood as a higher being) - highly logical

Then it should be easy to lay out the basic logic that supports the conclusion that a god exists. Please do so. You could be the first.

Quote:Our understanding of God - work in progress for many

There doesn't appear to have been much progress on that subject since it often appears that every believer has a unique understanding.

Quote:Deniers of God - nieve

There are atheists who deny that any god exists but all that is needed is to not accept the claim that one does exist. Those are not the same thing.

*naive

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02-08-2015, 07:52 AM
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Is someone here recruiting these people?

This is the largest influx of theists I have seen here.

Can't we have a quota and when that's filled no more are allowed entrance?

Safe haven my butt.

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02-08-2015, 07:53 AM
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(02-08-2015 06:31 AM)Brandenburg Wrote:  Deniers of God - nieve[/font]

Believers - indoctrinated.

The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

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02-08-2015, 08:09 AM
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Argument from incredulity.
"I can't believe the universe exists without a creator, ergo creator."

You also seem to equate an atheist with someone who thinks humans are the most advanced beings. Ironic since it is the theists who think the entire universe was created with humans in mind. Laugh out load

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02-08-2015, 08:16 AM
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(02-08-2015 07:52 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Is someone here recruiting these people?

This is the largest influx of theists I have seen here.

Can't we have a quota and when that's filled no more are allowed entrance?

Safe haven my butt.

Last line from the above is destined for the Quotes Taken Out Of Context thread (but I'm not going to do it).

Regarding the influx. I think we should ban the people who are letting them in.

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02-08-2015, 08:16 AM
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*atheism Drinking Beverage

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02-08-2015, 08:26 AM
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Brandenburg moved to Non-sequitrville

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