Bad in the bible is the devil talking as if he were god
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07-04-2012, 03:51 PM
Bad in the bible is the devil talking as if he were god
This is one of the big things I've heard in the past with believers--that whenever something bad happened or was said, it wasn't god saying it, it was the devil masquerading as god.

Examples:
- god never asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, it was the devil who wanted and told him to do so--then god stepped in and offered an animal instead to thwart the devil's plan
- god never allowed anything bad to happen to Job, it was the devil playing both god and the devil
- whenever god "played dumb" (i.e. asked a question he should've known if he were god) it was actually the devil, then god kicked the devil back and took over the conversation once good things happened (but if bad things were said, it was the devil throughout)

I was just wondering if others have heard anyone say this type of thing before, and what they have said or what can be done to refute it if anything. I asked one person something like "so you're saying the old testament is about Satan, and the new testament is about God?" which only got a reply along the lines of parts are, and you have to read carefully and interpret to figure out which is god and which is Satan--as Satan's tricky.

There's a number of things wrong with this, but everything I can think of would be disputed by the person as the famous "god works in mysterious ways" or perhaps "you just misinterpreted it".
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07-04-2012, 03:59 PM
RE: Bad in the bible is the devil talking as if he were god
Presenting rational argument to the irrational again?
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07-04-2012, 04:38 PM
RE: Bad in the bible is the devil talking as if he were god
thats the gnostic version...the old testament god was considered the "demiurge"

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07-04-2012, 05:18 PM
RE: Bad in the bible is the devil talking as if he were god
Well, Yahweh was orignally just a war god in a pagan religion if I'm not mistaken, so it shouldn't come as a shock to the educated. However, the un-educated...

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