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30-01-2013, 12:19 PM
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Chas has decided to ban me so I just wanted to say "Thanks, for the memories." It's been swell my short time on here. To you atheists with a sense of humor I say, "Hang in there." None of us truly knows if there is a God or not. That's what it's all about. Christianity is a religion of faith. We believe in it so it is fact to us but that doesnt make us right to you. I respect the atheists (apparently, just a few) that understand that what they believe isnt fact either. Unfortunately, too many of you believe your opinions are fact, say that, and then get offended by the poor Christian that thinks his are fact.

I honestly do get offended by the elitists on here. The ones with all the letters behind their names that hink they are better than the common man and that we should worship at their feet and accept everything they say without question. I also get offended at the people here that think it's okay for atheists to flame, disparage, insult and troll but if a Christian returns the favor they cry and whine and BAN them.

I could say a lot more but this prolly wont even get posted cuz I've already been banned. Bye, bye kiddies.
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30-01-2013, 12:30 PM
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241 posts from you so far, and this looks like the first one worth discussing. Not sure how you posted it if you're already banned, but assuming you remain unbanned and stick around long enough to justify a response, I might revisit this and open a discussion with you.

If you are being banned, well, then I'm sad that you seem unaware of why you're being banned. You state that it's OK for atheists to "flame, disparage, insult, and troll" but not for Christians.

You're wrong, of course. Atheists get banned for that too.

You know who doesn't get banned? People who actually have something to share, something to contribute, even if they "flame, disparage, insult, and troll", as long as they ALSO contribute something. And maybe if they balance the flaming with the contributing so they don't come off as posting 240 flaming spams in just a few days time.

But you know this. You only said what you did to try to get the gullible to feel sorry for you.

Me, I would rather you figure out what you're doing wrong, knock it off, and then stick around for some good conversation. If you can. We'll see.

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30-01-2013, 12:45 PM (This post was last modified: 30-01-2013 01:27 PM by DLJ.)
RE: Banned
(30-01-2013 12:30 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  ...
stick around for some good conversation.
...

I agree. I've only seen maybe 10% of your posts (distracted by real life, dagnammit) but apart from the "I'm so bad / hated / blah blah" stuff, I've seen some good (if contentious) points and a few intriguing contradictions that indicate an interesting psyche.

All viewpoints and opinions are potentially interesting.

It's usually the method of delivery that raises ire.

What your reason is for being here ... you know better than I.

If that reason remains... welcome... carry on.

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30-01-2013, 12:46 PM
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(30-01-2013 12:30 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  241 posts from you so far, and this looks like the first one worth discussing. Not sure how you posted it if you're already banned, but assuming you remain unbanned and stick around long enough to justify a response, I might revisit this and open a discussion with you.

If you are being banned, well, then I'm sad that you seem unaware of why you're being banned. You state that it's OK for atheists to "flame, disparage, insult, and troll" but not for Christians.

You're wrong, of course. Atheists get banned for that too.

You know who doesn't get banned? People who actually have something to share, something to contribute, even if they "flame, disparage, insult, and troll", as long as they ALSO contribute something. And maybe if they balance the flaming with the contributing so they don't come off as posting 240 flaming spams in just a few days time.

But you know this. You only said what you did to try to get the gullible to feel sorry for you.

Me, I would rather you figure out what you're doing wrong, knock it off, and then stick around for some good conversation. If you can. We'll see.

We'll see. When my meds are flowing I can rationalize but sometimes they arent and I am unaware of it. I go up and down in my moods (kinda like a manic/depressive, which I am too) and am unaware until later when I read some of the crap I posted. I've kept no secret about my mental problems so I am surprised that anyone here takes anything I have to say seriously. I am sarcastic by nature, it's a genetic thing. I do make things personal and that is wrong. I call people names like Sparky, hotshot, pinhead, etc. and that's wrong. I wish I could control it but my Dad was the same way.

I agree I've done a lot of posting but most of it is in responce to the flaming I am getting from you guys. Count the number of new threads I've made and then comment on them. If someone disses me, I diss them back. I am very confrontational, that comes from being a cop. I was trained by the highway patrol to never back down and always be in control of a situation. Sorry, but after 40 years of that it's kinda hard to change into Marky Milquetoast.

I really appreciate your advice and hope that I have the opportunity to change. That remains to be seen. As long as I and my beliefs get flamed I will return in kind. Be nice to me, like YOU are, and I will be nice in return. Flame me and my beliefs and I will flame you back. Let me say this for the hundredth time so maybe it will sink in to others: MY BELIEFS ARE MY BELIEFS JUST LIKE YOURS ARE YOURS. QUIT SAYING YOURS ARE FACTS AND MINE ARENT AND WE'LL GET ALONG. I would LOVE to have a nice discussion with an atheist that admits his beliefs, and I mean his "SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCES" too, are just that, beliefs, not fact. No one is going to know anything until the end of their existence. If there is no afterlife then the point is moot. If there is, then one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong.

If someone would like to have a nice, serious discussion about atheism/christianity, without flaming, insulting, disparaging or trolling, then I welcome them. Just follow one guideline, you opinions are not fact and neither are mine.
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30-01-2013, 12:53 PM
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Well, I managed to miss all your posts except for this thread.
You seem to have pissed a lot of people off.
I am surprised to hear you are a cop - cops are to maintain the peace. They are supposed to be unflappable.
You are certainly not that.

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30-01-2013, 12:53 PM
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Erm, no you haven't been banned.

Firstly, don't try and fling shit at Chas, as far as I'm aware he hasn't even suggested banning you. Secondly, the tiny clue that you haven't been banned would be the fact that you can still post.

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30-01-2013, 12:56 PM
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(30-01-2013 12:45 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(30-01-2013 12:30 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  ...
stick around for some good conversation.
...

I agree. I've only seen maybe 10% of your posts (distracted by real life, dagnammit) but apart from the "I'm so bad / hated / blah blah" stuff, I've seen some good (if contentious) points and a few intriguing contradictions that indicate an interesting psyche.

All viewpoints and are opinions are potentially interesting.

It's usually the method of delivery that raises ire.

What your reason is for being here ... you know better than I.

If that reason remains... welcome... carry on.
Lol, love this one. You are probably spot on.
As to my reason for being here, I guess if truth be told, I came here with a hardon. I'm so sick of atheists coming to Christian forums in the same manner as I've come here, just to troll. They are ill-mannerd, just as I have been here, and only interested in flaming instead of serious discussion. I know that many Christians are no different than atheists but what purpose does flaming them serve. Christians are commanded to spread the gospel. Unfortunately, Christians are humans just like atheists and some dont do it properly. We are to offer the gospel to those that want to hear it, but atheists take that as an insult and, just like in ancient times when they stoned Christians for spreading the gospel, they go on the warpath in Christian forums. You guys are always defending pornography by saying if you dont like it dont watch it, then the same applies to you, if you dont like Christianity then dont go to a Christian forum.
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30-01-2013, 12:56 PM
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(30-01-2013 12:19 PM)Richard Stuckmeyer Wrote:  Chas has decided to ban me so I just wanted to say "Thanks, for the memories." It's been swell my short time on here. To you atheists with a sense of humor I say, "Hang in there." None of us truly knows if there is a God or not. That's what it's all about. Christianity is a religion of faith. We believe in it so it is fact to us but that doesnt make us right to you. I respect the atheists (apparently, just a few) that understand that what they believe isnt fact either. Unfortunately, too many of you believe your opinions are fact, say that, and then get offended by the poor Christian that thinks his are fact.

I honestly do get offended by the elitists on here. The ones with all the letters behind their names that hink they are better than the common man and that we should worship at their feet and accept everything they say without question. I also get offended at the people here that think it's okay for atheists to flame, disparage, insult and troll but if a Christian returns the favor they cry and whine and BAN them.

I could say a lot more but this prolly wont even get posted cuz I've already been banned. Bye, bye kiddies.

If you've already been banned, then how are you posting?

I can't say that I'm sad to see you go, though if your intent was only to ruffle some feathers in retribution for some unknown slight against your or some other Christians. Great job, glad you have so much going on in your life that this is worthwhile to you.
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30-01-2013, 01:00 PM
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(30-01-2013 12:53 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  Erm, no you haven't been banned.

Firstly, don't try and fling shit at Chas, as far as I'm aware he hasn't even suggested banning you. Secondly, the tiny clue that you haven't been banned would be the fact that you can still post.
Firstly, I'll do as I wish. I'm too lazy to go back through all the threads on here and find it, and I need not prove anything to you, but his words in a post we something like "Keep insulting us and you WILL be banned". If you read that some other way then feel free to explain it.
Secondly, I didnt say nI WAS banned, I said that Chas THREATENED to ban me. Pay attention, please.
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30-01-2013, 01:02 PM
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(30-01-2013 12:46 PM)Richard Stuckmeyer Wrote:  
(30-01-2013 12:30 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  241 posts from you so far, and this looks like the first one worth discussing. Not sure how you posted it if you're already banned, but assuming you remain unbanned and stick around long enough to justify a response, I might revisit this and open a discussion with you.

If you are being banned, well, then I'm sad that you seem unaware of why you're being banned. You state that it's OK for atheists to "flame, disparage, insult, and troll" but not for Christians.

You're wrong, of course. Atheists get banned for that too.

You know who doesn't get banned? People who actually have something to share, something to contribute, even if they "flame, disparage, insult, and troll", as long as they ALSO contribute something. And maybe if they balance the flaming with the contributing so they don't come off as posting 240 flaming spams in just a few days time.

But you know this. You only said what you did to try to get the gullible to feel sorry for you.

Me, I would rather you figure out what you're doing wrong, knock it off, and then stick around for some good conversation. If you can. We'll see.

We'll see. When my meds are flowing I can rationalize but sometimes they arent and I am unaware of it. I go up and down in my moods (kinda like a manic/depressive, which I am too) and am unaware until later when I read some of the crap I posted. I've kept no secret about my mental problems so I am surprised that anyone here takes anything I have to say seriously. I am sarcastic by nature, it's a genetic thing. I do make things personal and that is wrong. I call people names like Sparky, hotshot, pinhead, etc. and that's wrong. I wish I could control it but my Dad was the same way.

I agree I've done a lot of posting but most of it is in responce to the flaming I am getting from you guys. Count the number of new threads I've made and then comment on them. If someone disses me, I diss them back. I am very confrontational, that comes from being a cop. I was trained by the highway patrol to never back down and always be in control of a situation. Sorry, but after 40 years of that it's kinda hard to change into Marky Milquetoast.

I really appreciate your advice and hope that I have the opportunity to change. That remains to be seen. As long as I and my beliefs get flamed I will return in kind. Be nice to me, like YOU are, and I will be nice in return. Flame me and my beliefs and I will flame you back. Let me say this for the hundredth time so maybe it will sink in to others: MY BELIEFS ARE MY BELIEFS JUST LIKE YOURS ARE YOURS. QUIT SAYING YOURS ARE FACTS AND MINE ARENT AND WE'LL GET ALONG. I would LOVE to have a nice discussion with an atheist that admits his beliefs, and I mean his "SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCES" too, are just that, beliefs, not fact. No one is going to know anything until the end of their existence. If there is no afterlife then the point is moot. If there is, then one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong.

If someone would like to have a nice, serious discussion about atheism/christianity, without flaming, insulting, disparaging or trolling, then I welcome them. Just follow one guideline, you opinions are not fact and neither are mine.

If you will tone down your confrontational posts, then the members will, too.

And as far as science is concerned, it's not a question of facts vs. opinion, it's a question of evidence.

We have evidence that the earth goes around the sun, that the sun orbits the center of our galaxy, evidence that there is a massive black hole in the center of our galaxy, that there are billions of galaxies, that DNA codes for heritable traits, that the common code of DNA shows common ancestry of all living things, that smoking tobacco increases the likelihood of certain cancers, that HIV causes AIDS, that homeopathy is not valid, that astrology and phrenology are ridiculous, and and so on an so on.

These are not opinions, they are facts derived from evidence. And we got that evidence by being curious and adventurous and asking questions and seeking answers and never being willing to say "we'll never know".

The people here are, for the most part, curious and inquisitive; not so keen on being preached to.

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