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14-04-2017, 11:18 AM (This post was last modified: 14-04-2017 06:12 PM by ghostexorcist.)
Beer existed before bread
Evidence of possible beer brewing at Gobekli Tepe, a 12,000 year old neolithic religious site in Turkey, suggests the libation existed a few thousand years before the agriculture revolution. Keep in mind that people were still living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle when the site was built. Beer would have served a religious and cohesive social function at this time and place.

Quote:https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/20...ad-or-beer

For decades, beer partisans have argued that fermented rather than baked grain led humans to begin sowing the fields, settling down, and abandoning their hunter-gatherer ways. I have found none of their arguments persuasive; there just wasn't a smoking gun to support it one way or another. Food is a more basic need, and in the absence of evidence, bread seemed the more likely spark to a change as revolutionary as domesticating crops.

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In late 2012, however, archaeologists made a rather startling discovery that had until recently escaped my notice--and it appears to tip the balance, with actual evidence, toward beer.
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14-04-2017, 11:22 AM
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(14-04-2017 11:18 AM)ghostexorcist Wrote:  Evidence of possibly beer brewing at Gobekli Tepe, a 12,000 year old neolithic religious site in Turkey, suggests the libation existed a few thousand years before the agriculture revolution. Keep in mind that people were still living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle when the site was built. Beer would have served a religious and cohesive social function at this time and place.

Quote:https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/20...ad-or-beer

For decades, beer partisans have argued that fermented rather than baked grain led humans to begin sowing the fields, settling down, and abandoning their hunter-gatherer ways. I have found none of their arguments persuasive; there just wasn't a smoking gun to support it one way or another. Food is a more basic need, and in the absence of evidence, bread seemed the more likely spark to a change as revolutionary as domesticating crops.

[...]

In late 2012, however, archaeologists made a rather startling discovery that had until recently escaped my notice--and it appears to tip the balance, with actual evidence, toward beer.

The city of Munich sprung up because a bunch of monks lived there and brewed grain to drink during fasting periods. This beer was apparently very nutritious and delicious and caused people to settle near there. Or so the story has it. Tongue

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14-04-2017, 11:24 AM
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(14-04-2017 11:22 AM)Dom Wrote:  The city of Munich sprung up because a bunch of monks lived there and brewed grain to drink during fasting periods. This beer was apparently very nutritious and delicious and caused people to settle near there. Or so the story has it. Tongue

That's interesting. It sounds just like what may have happened to neolithic humans, as described in the linked article.
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14-04-2017, 11:26 AM
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(14-04-2017 11:18 AM)ghostexorcist Wrote:  Evidence of possibly beer brewing at Gobekli Tepe, a 12,000 year old neolithic religious site in Turkey, suggests the libation existed a few thousand years before the agriculture revolution. Keep in mind that people were still living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle when the site was built. Beer would have served a religious and cohesive social function at this time and place.

Quote:https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/20...ad-or-beer

For decades, beer partisans have argued that fermented rather than baked grain led humans to begin sowing the fields, settling down, and abandoning their hunter-gatherer ways. I have found none of their arguments persuasive; there just wasn't a smoking gun to support it one way or another. Food is a more basic need, and in the absence of evidence, bread seemed the more likely spark to a change as revolutionary as domesticating crops.

[...]

In late 2012, however, archaeologists made a rather startling discovery that had until recently escaped my notice--and it appears to tip the balance, with actual evidence, toward beer.

I think Dogfish Head is already all over this. Sounds like their Midas Touch. Drooling

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14-04-2017, 11:32 AM
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(14-04-2017 11:24 AM)ghostexorcist Wrote:  
(14-04-2017 11:22 AM)Dom Wrote:  The city of Munich sprung up because a bunch of monks lived there and brewed grain to drink during fasting periods. This beer was apparently very nutritious and delicious and caused people to settle near there. Or so the story has it. Tongue

That's interesting. It sounds just like what may have happened to neolithic humans, as described in the linked article.

The name Munich is derived from the German word for monk. I remember this story from local history lessons in grade school.

There was a road along the monastery leading to a bridge over the river and hence there were more and more people becoming aware of the spot and the beer.

The major of Munich starts the first barrel of beer at the Octoberfest the original way - hammering the spout in. If he can't do it with 3 strokes he can't be major. I don't think this applies anymore, I went to grade school a very long time ago. But the major still has to hammer in that spout. Beer is and always was super important in Munich. MacDonalds serves beer there. Tongue

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14-04-2017, 11:35 AM
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Thank fuck for bread all the same. Anybody ever tried to make a ham and mustard sandwich with beer? Big Grin

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14-04-2017, 11:39 AM
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Considering that men probably invented it this does not surprise me at all.

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14-04-2017, 11:54 AM
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(14-04-2017 11:35 AM)SYZ Wrote:  Thank fuck for bread all the same. Anybody ever tried to make a ham and mustard sandwich with beer? Big Grin

You can make beer out of bread. Yes

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14-04-2017, 12:06 PM
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I like the "possibly" that turns into fact.
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14-04-2017, 12:13 PM
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(14-04-2017 11:54 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-04-2017 11:35 AM)SYZ Wrote:  Thank fuck for bread all the same. Anybody ever tried to make a ham and mustard sandwich with beer? Big Grin

You can make beer out of bread. Yes

We used to make a spent grain bread that was all sorts of awesome.


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