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20-09-2015, 08:39 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
How is my question unclear? Did you read the scripture? You said all one needs is faith ori something. And that the religion was gentle or some such. I then quoted both xianity and islam to show they are not. Then you asked me to clarify?

Clarify what exactly, your lack of comprehension? The bible proved you wrong. Pure and simple.


(20-09-2015 08:10 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 05:33 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Which monotheism is it to which you refer Pops? Islam? Xianity? Judaism?

Of the three above Judaism is the most benign, confining itself to Jews. Both Islam and Xianity are dangerous to non believers.

Xianity:

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

2 Timothy 3:8 KJV Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

xodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Leviticus 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Deuteronomy 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

1st Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Etc,

Islam.

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."


The above are threats and have zero to do with evidence of salvation. Xianity even claims xians are predestined to believe and unbelievers not.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

2nd Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2nd Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2nd Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:


You are either dishonest about your religion, or ignorant of it Pops. Which is it?
How am I being dishonest? Really be specific so I can defend my stance please.

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20-09-2015, 08:53 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 08:39 PM)Banjo Wrote:  How is my question unclear? Did you read the scripture? You said all one needs is faith ori something. And that the religion was gentle or some such. I then quoted both xianity and islam to show they are not. Then you asked me to clarify?

Clarify what exactly, your lack of comprehension? The bible proved you wrong. Pure and simple.


(20-09-2015 08:10 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  How am I being dishonest? Really be specific so I can defend my stance please.
Any halfwit can cherry pick and remove things from context to make them seem like something they are not. Especially when one is trying to be manipulative for his own selfish goals. What's sad is your brothers probably think non the less of you for it. Carry on comrade is surely their anthem. I've read pretty much all the way through the Torah, Quaran, and New Covenant repeatedly. They are the same, with the same accounts(Torah/OT/Quaran) and same general message(New Covenant/ Quaran) oh yeah let's not forget the Book of Enoch and the Gita too.
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20-09-2015, 09:00 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 08:36 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Now your speaking of messengers. And don't forget all is of God and if he wants you to know of him then you will if you don't resist. Why would he literally choose for you not believe? He wouldn't unless your heart is hardened

And who is responsible for hardening human hearts?

God is. Just ask Pharoah.

God does not work in mysterious ways — he works in ways that are indistinguishable from his non-existence.
Jesus had a pretty rough weekend for your sins.
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20-09-2015, 09:01 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 08:36 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 08:26 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  And you're a dishonest charlatan ... desperate to make others think your BS is reasonable. No one can "attain faith". Maybe you should read your Babble a little.
"No one shall come to me unless the Father draw him". "For many are called, but few are chosen". You're just one of thousands of ignorant "preacher" types who basically know NOTHING about religion. You're a fraud.
Now your speaking of messengers. And don't forget all is of God and if he wants you to know of him then you will if you don't resist. Why would he literally choose for you not believe? He wouldn't unless your heart is hardened

Except there is no god. It's all in your dim head, pops. All BS.
My heart is in better shape than yours.

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20-09-2015, 09:05 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 09:01 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 08:36 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Now your speaking of messengers. And don't forget all is of God and if he wants you to know of him then you will if you don't resist. Why would he literally choose for you not believe? He wouldn't unless your heart is hardened

Except there is no god. It's all in your dim head, pops. All BS.
My heart is in better shape than yours.
I've got the heart of a champion
I have put it through its paces all my life. That's the one part of me that's good to go for sure for sure.
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20-09-2015, 09:06 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 09:05 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 09:01 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Except there is no god. It's all in your dim head, pops. All BS.
My heart is in better shape than yours.
I've got the heart of a champion
I have put it through its paces all my life. That's the one part of me that's good to go for sure for sure.
According to recent studies; not too dim either. Especially when speaking of the light.
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20-09-2015, 09:08 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 09:05 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 09:01 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Except there is no god. It's all in your dim head, pops. All BS.
My heart is in better shape than yours.
I've got the heart of a champion
I have put it through its paces all my life. That's the one part of me that's good to go for sure for sure.

So the snake-oil salesman can suddenly change from a "hardened heart" as an analogy to the 'heart of a champion". Sure you do pops. Sure you do. Liar.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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20-09-2015, 09:15 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 09:08 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 09:05 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I've got the heart of a champion
I have put it through its paces all my life. That's the one part of me that's good to go for sure for sure.

So the snake-oil salesman can suddenly change from a "hardened heart" as an analogy to the 'heart of a champion". Sure you do pops. Sure you do. Liar.
Yeah, was talking about two very different people you ignoramus.
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20-09-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 09:08 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 09:05 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I've got the heart of a champion
I have put it through its paces all my life. That's the one part of me that's good to go for sure for sure.

So the snake-oil salesman can suddenly change from a "hardened heart" as an analogy to the 'heart of a champion". Sure you do pops. Sure you do. Liar.
Not selling shit either you sorry lying ass
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20-09-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Believe and now before it's too late.(With Science and Archaeology evidence for God)
(20-09-2015 09:17 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(20-09-2015 09:08 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  So the snake-oil salesman can suddenly change from a "hardened heart" as an analogy to the 'heart of a champion". Sure you do pops. Sure you do. Liar.
Not selling shit either you sorry lying ass

Well then, Praise the Lard Jebus.
Liar.
You are selling your religious crap, and you know it.
No one is buying your garbage here.

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